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Jan 07, 2014 03:45 |  #1

This week I'd hopefully be moving on the 7D and 17-85 to a new home. I'm switching to a 1D mkIII. Already been over it all in my head more than enough times so I've now taking the plunge.

Since I'll be losing a pretty good zoom range, I was wondering what would fit well on a 1D 1.3 crop?

I love wildlife of which I have the 400 prime for, but I've been known to go down the stock and portrait route too. I just get asked to do this sort of work from time to time to it's useful to have a lens you can count on.

My initial thought would have been the 24-105L but is there anything you can recommend? I'm keeping my Tokina 11-16 but I fear that's going to be a lot wider on the 1D than the 7D. It's like going to leave a gap for a lens I'll end up needing somewhere down the line.

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Jan 07, 2014 03:52 |  #2

Paulstw wrote in post #16584638 (external link)
This week I'd hopefully be moving on the 7D and 17-85 to a new home. I'm switching to a 1D mkIII. Already been over it all in my head more than enough times so I've now taking the plunge.

Since I'll be losing a pretty good zoom range, I was wondering what would fit well on a 1D 1.3 crop?

I love wildlife of which I have the 400 prime for, but I've been known to go down the stock and portrait route too. I just get asked to do this sort of work from time to time to it's useful to have a lens you can count on.

My initial thought would have been the 24-105L but is there anything you can recommend? I'm keeping my Tokina 11-16 but I fear that's going to be a lot wider on the 1D than the 7D. It's like going to leave a gap for a lens I'll end up needing somewhere down the line.

Cheers,

Paul

Have you considered a 35 or 50 prime?


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Jan 07, 2014 03:57 |  #3

Well if you want keep that range, the 24-105 is pretty similar in range to the 17-85.
Another route is a 24-70, or a 50 / 85 for portraits, or 17-40 for a wide zoom.

It really depends on what you want to replace. It will also affect the price.


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Jan 07, 2014 03:58 |  #4

renaissance_myth wrote in post #16584643 (external link)
Have you considered a 35 or 50 prime?

I do have a 50mm 1.8 but the AF motor is snookered. Clicks and rattles trying to AF. I think it's broke. Hardly ever used it too. I quite liked the Sigma 30mm 1.4 when I had it on loan. I would consider it, however, in distance limiting situations it might be a problem.




  
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Jan 07, 2014 04:08 |  #5

Paulstw wrote in post #16584646 (external link)
I do have a 50mm 1.8 but the AF motor is snookered. Clicks and rattles trying to AF. I think it's broke. Hardly ever used it too. I quite liked the Sigma 30mm 1.4 when I had it on loan. I would consider it, however, in distance limiting situations it might be a problem.

If you like the sigma 30 on the 1.6 crop, then 35mm would be the closest on the 1.3 crop. But I agree with Eyal that the 24-105 would be the best bang for the buck for a lens of that range.

Really depends on what you shoot too.

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Jan 07, 2014 04:17 |  #6

It's going to need to be a do everything lens. Or as close to anything really. I was never happy with the IQ of the 17-85, however, with the flash and some PP the images are nice. The focal length is pretty cool so that's why the 24-105 appeals. The Sigma variant is getting some good praise at the moment. Sharper but with more CA it seems. I actually think the CA on the Canon 24-105 is never well controlled in people sample images, but stands out a mile. If the Sigma is worse then maybe that'll be a bad choice.




  
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Jan 07, 2014 04:20 |  #7

In that case the 24-105 is gonna be a pretty great workhorse for you :)


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Jan 07, 2014 04:40 |  #8

There is also the new sigma 24-105 and from reviews it a small step forward from the canon version.


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Jan 07, 2014 04:56 |  #9

Yeah I've been reading up on that Sigma. Seems to be quite a head turner. I'm not bothered about who makes it, as long as it's a good chunk of glass that'll give better IQ than a 17-85.




  
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Jan 07, 2014 05:25 as a reply to  @ Paulstw's post |  #10

"Effectively", on your 1D3, a 24-105 will be almost identical to the 17-85 on your 7D at the long end, and only slightly longer at the short end (about 4mm).

I find that the combination of a 17-40 and 24-105 on a 1D3 is pretty versatile, to say the least, if you willing to use two lenses ...

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Jan 07, 2014 05:31 |  #11

Cheers for the input. It'll be a long journey but sound advice :)




  
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Jan 07, 2014 05:41 as a reply to  @ Paulstw's post |  #12

When you work out the focal length of EF lenses for a crop 1.6 camera it's usually the focal length times 1.6. The same could be done for 1.3 crop which throws out a 36-135mm for the 24-105 on the 1D. An EF-s 17-85 should be just that, a 17-85mm.

I doubt I'd notice the difference in real terms, but am I wrong in the way I've been working this out over the years?




  
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Jan 07, 2014 05:52 |  #13

Paulstw wrote in post #16584741 (external link)
When you work out the focal length of EF lenses for a crop 1.6 camera it's usually the focal length times 1.6. The same could be done for 1.3 crop which throws out a 36-135mm for the 24-105 on the 1D. An EF-s 17-85 should be just that, a 17-85mm.

I doubt I'd notice the difference in real terms, but am I wrong in the way I've been working this out over the years?

EF-S just means only mountable EF-S mount cameras eg 60D 7D etc, and not mountable on EF mount cameras. The focal length, in this case the 17-85 would have to be multiplied by 1.6 too, hence quite close to the 24-105 on a 1.3 as maxdave pointed out.


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Jan 07, 2014 06:02 |  #14

renaissance_myth wrote in post #16584754 (external link)
EF-S just means only mountable EF-S mount cameras eg 60D 7D etc, and not mountable on EF mount cameras. The focal length, in this case the 17-85 would have to be multiplied by 1.6 too, hence quite close to the 24-105 on a 1.3 as maxdave pointed out.

OH dear, so I have been working this out all wrong then? Ha ha, I feel like a prize clown.




  
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Jan 07, 2014 06:21 |  #15

Paulstw wrote in post #16584775 (external link)
OH dear, so I have been working this out all wrong then? Ha ha, I feel like a prize clown.

:) so if you are comfortable with the 17-85 on 1.6, then i guess the best bet would be the 24-105 on the 1.3.

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