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Upgrade, to 6D, but What wide angle?

 
rosalynsam
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Jan 07, 2014 13:26 |  #1

I have a Canon 40D - time to upgrade for better IQ, reduced noise, but have limited budget. Thinking 6D, but I really like my Canon 10-22 wide angle. Can't afford new body and new pricey lens. I have Canon 24-70 L and love it, so definitely want to keep it. But I am mourning the idea of losing a wider angle option. The 16-35 Canon is way out of my price range - even the Canon 17-40 is a huge chunk. Suggestions, please? I hear hints of an new 7D version coming out in a couple of months- any inside info on that?




  
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Jan 07, 2014 13:36 |  #2

I went with a 17-40L with my 6D. I use it exclusively for landscapes because it's noticeably soft in the corners wide open. Plus at f/4 it's not the best indoors. Coming from a 10-22 as well, I found the 17-40 to be just as good if not better for what I used it for (again, landscapes).

If you want cheaper, you're looking at primes, or a zoom from Sigma/Tokina. Depending on where you are, a refurb 17-40 is dirt cheap at the right time (extra 20% promotions, etc.).


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Jan 07, 2014 13:55 |  #3

Unless you can afford the 17-40 to go along with it, I'd skip on the 6D. Are you totally against something like the 70D? The 7D is definitely getting a little long in the tooth.


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Jan 07, 2014 13:57 |  #4

Do you find yourself using 10-14mm often on the 10-22? If not, the 24-70 will work just fine for you. If you need wider, I'd look at the Samyang 14/2.8.


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Jan 07, 2014 13:59 |  #5

Given that the 10-22 sells for roughly the same as the 17-40 on the used market I would suggest upgrading to full frame and then selling the 10-22 to finance the 17-40. If you are holding on the idea of keeping the 10-22 for future use on the 40D forget about that. Once you go full frame you will want to stay there for your wide work.




  
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Jan 07, 2014 14:00 |  #6

^This. Sell the 10-22 and get a 17-40. At most, you'll pay $50-75 out of pocket.


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Jan 07, 2014 14:10 |  #7

Great! Thanks for the replies! Helpful info, and I appreciate it. The 70 D just didn't seem to stack up on "snapsort", and since this may be my last dslr, I thought I should go for the "better" body...but I'm open. So, I'll take another look - touch screen, etc is attractive. Main thing for me is IQ/less noise. I'm always so hesitant when it comes to buying and selling used....I should buck up and go for it, I guess!




  
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Jan 07, 2014 14:13 |  #8

Your current lens is used? Does that make you use it less? Of course not. There are lots of used 17-40's on the market as its sort of a beginner L lens due to price and popularity. Just find a trustworthy vendor and make it happen.




  
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Jan 07, 2014 14:41 |  #9

Yes, you're right about the used and the "trustworthy vendor" part - a good reminder for me. It's my selling that is a concern - I don't want to "give it away", which I felt like I would be doing selling to the local camera shop (I checked earlier)- but I wonder if they might trade me lenses at a more fair price to make the sale on the body. Guess it wouldn't hurt to try. I am intimidated on how to represent and price things accurately, too - yep, definite buck up time! Thanks again for the help!
Now, where to get a 6D if that doesn't work!  ???




  
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Jan 07, 2014 14:46 |  #10

rosalynsam wrote in post #16585742 (external link)
I have a Canon 40D - time to upgrade for better IQ, reduced noise, but have limited budget. Thinking 6D, but I really like my Canon 10-22 wide angle. Can't afford new body and new pricey lens. I have Canon 24-70 L and love it, so definitely want to keep it. But I am mourning the idea of losing a wider angle option. The 16-35 Canon is way out of my price range - even the Canon 17-40 is a huge chunk. Suggestions, please? I hear hints of an new 7D version coming out in a couple of months- any inside info on that?

Heya,

The 6D is a great camera to move to. Best in noise control. So if you photograph the night, this is the camera.

The Rokinon 14mm F2.8 is a very wide lens (wider than the 10-22 ultimately, on full frame). Very sharp. Fully manual. Very, very wide. Look in the lens archive for images. It's very high quality for what it is. It's also very affordable.

18~24mm on Full Frame is pretty wide. Not quite as wide as the 10mm of your past 10-22. But still very wide. Worth looking into. 21mm is often looked as the sweet spot, but ultimately the sweet spot for you is whatever you prefer.

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Jan 07, 2014 14:48 |  #11

I would be wary of trading with a local shop. They need to make a profit on every exchange so they are going to low ball you in the hopes of selling high. The best option is to sell locally on craigslist or perhaps a local paper that does classified ads. I dont know where you live, but in many places there isnt that much used gear available so when something hits the market at a fair price it gets a lot of interest. Just do some research, go to KEH.com, adorama etc. to find the going price on the gear you want to sell, then price yours accordingly. Those two are also good places to look for your new lens once you are ready.




  
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Jan 07, 2014 14:53 |  #12

Here is what you do... use the Canon Loyalty Program.

Go to shop.usa.canon.com and in the pulldown menu, search for lenses/refurbished lenses. select 17-40L and set an alert to notify you when it comes in stock. Also do the same for the 6D. While you are waiting, see if you can find an old Canon powershot camera or some such thing that you can trade in.

As soon as you get notified that the 17-40L refurbs are in stock, call the Canon Loyalty Program 1-800 number (do a search on POTN for CLP) and get your 6D and 17-40L refurbs. You'll get 10or 15% off the normal $1519 price for the 6D and 20% off the $671 refurb price for the lens. Make sure you order the lens when you order the camera.


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Jan 07, 2014 16:21 |  #13

Awesome help! Crazy thing that just happened a few minutes ago! I think I have a buyer for my Canon 10-22. That is mostly what has been holding me back from going FF! And I certainly will look into the Canon Loyalty Program...thanks so much for the suggestions!




  
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Jan 07, 2014 17:29 |  #14

I moved from a 60D to a 5DmkIII. Bought the 5D as a factory refurb and bought the 17-40 used in excellent condition for $375. Very happy with this lens for landscapes.


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Jan 07, 2014 17:32 |  #15

Given you clearly use the 10-22 on your 40D, what focal lengths do you mainly use.
Anything from 15 and above will be covered by the 24-70 when you put that on your 6D.

24mm is generally ample wide enough on a 6D.

You'll only really need the wider 17-40, or 16-35 if you've been using a lot of the 10-14 range of focal lengths on the 10-22.


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