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Jan 10, 2014 04:05 |  #1

I do not want to start a fight but I have always thought my shadows we rubbish, lets say I need to expose for a waterfall and therefore get dark shads. I should take 3 exposures and blend but that is not always appropriate. This to say with an increase of maybe 1.5 stops in an image with dark but not quite clipped shadows should I expect pattern noise?
I now ask as a professional photographer friend of mine has looked at one particular image and tells me he has used a few of his clients 5DIII files and never seen pattern noise as bad as on mine?

Which starts you thinking....:rolleyes: bad thoughts...


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Jan 10, 2014 05:48 |  #2

Your pics look good.

Any particular pic?




  
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Jan 10, 2014 06:13 |  #3

you will always get pattern noise in the shadows - nothing that can be done about it.

Your shots are lovely btw.


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Jan 10, 2014 06:17 |  #4

Thanks. Once I am home I will add a picture.

What bothers me is a very respected friend, and pro, had a guy on a workshop with a 5DIII who did not have similar pattern noise. It is better than my old 5DII but can it be that some bodies are worse than others?


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Jan 10, 2014 07:23 |  #5

Neilyb wrote in post #16593244 (external link)
This to say with an increase of maybe 1.5 stops in an image with dark but not quite clipped shadows should I expect pattern noise?

yes.

1.5 stops is a lot to ask.

are you familiar with the idea of ETTR (expose to the right)?


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Jan 10, 2014 07:42 |  #6

Neilyb wrote in post #16593377 (external link)
Thanks. Once I am home I will add a picture.

What bothers me is a very respected friend, and pro, had a guy on a workshop with a 5DIII who did not have similar pattern noise. It is better than my old 5DII but can it be that some bodies are worse than others?

I won't be surprised. Just like lenses vary from copy to copy.

However, when I look at your pics, I wouldn't say you have a bad copy 5D.




  
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Jan 10, 2014 07:44 |  #7
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MattD wrote in post #16593374 (external link)
you will always get pattern noise in the shadows - nothing that can be done about it.

Your shots are lovely btw.

you can sell the Canon and get a different camera.

https://photography-on-the.net …?p=16519527&pos​tcount=216


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Jan 10, 2014 07:53 |  #8

nekrosoft13 wrote in post #16593516 (external link)
you can sell the Canon and get a different camera.

https://photography-on-the.net …?p=16519527&pos​tcount=216

I am thinking about it, seriously, that sensor with a T&S lens = sharp, no diffraction and nice huge files for printing....


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Jan 10, 2014 07:56 |  #9

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=he's gone;16593482]yes.

1.5 stops is a lot to ask.


are you familiar with the idea of ETTR (expose to the right)?

Don't get me started, normally i shoot as far as I can but faced with bright (waterfall) and shadows one either has to shoot 3 exposures or compromise (if the missus is behind me looking at her watch for example).

To be honest i do not think 1.5 stops is too much now, look at the sony sensors, yes age old moan since the D800 arrived but still stands.

Anyway i am stuck with it for now or until I have enough for an A7r... ;)


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Jan 10, 2014 08:13 as a reply to  @ Neilyb's post |  #10

Have you seen this other togs pictures? Was he taking the same sort of images you are so it was a valid comparison. Did your friend see all this togs work in order to make a valid comparison or did he just see a few of the togs best pieces. Very hard to compare via hearsay. You would really need to post images taken in similar situations to do any sort of comparison.


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Jan 10, 2014 09:37 |  #11

Well I do not have his images he is in the UK. I guess for now I wil be happy knowing everyone except has that problem :) kind of keeps me happy.... :|


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Neilyb wrote in post #16593534 (external link)
I am thinking about it, seriously, that sensor with a T&S lens = sharp, no diffraction and nice huge files for printing....

even Olympus MFT doesn't have that pattern problem like canon.


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Jan 10, 2014 17:54 |  #13

There is deep shadow noise if you really look for it. 1DX is a lot better if you can spend that money for waterfall shots :)

Expose to the right and clean in lightroom. Normally that does the trick, and worked a treat just as well with 1DSII


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Jan 10, 2014 18:15 |  #14

nekrosoft13 wrote in post #16593516 (external link)
you can sell the Canon and get a different camera.

https://photography-on-the.net …?p=16519527&pos​tcount=216


just...wow, i read somewhere, the best sensor is in the A7/7R...is that a testament?




  
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Jan 10, 2014 20:56 |  #15

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