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Jan 10, 2014 11:22 |  #1

I'm looking at the one without the clamp. At Adorama and B&H they show it with a threaded disk. Does anyone know if this comes with a 3/8" stud to fit a RRS B2-Pro clamp or do I have buy that stud separately? Thanks guys!


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Jan 10, 2014 12:03 |  #2

The Z1 without the clamp has two versions. One has a 1/4"-20 stud on top, the other a 3/8"-16. Just make sure you order the right one.

Those disks can be removed via a small 11mm socket, assuming they don't use a strong threadlocker. The one I bought recently did not have any threadlocker, so that disk can be removed and replaced by a clamp of choice. This thread has more information on the threadlocker: https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1339086

Under the disk is a stem with an M6-threaded hole and an anti-twist boss. You can attach a compatible QR clamp of choice to that stem. I assume that is your goal?


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Jan 10, 2014 12:13 |  #3

Thanks sawsedge! This is exactly what I needed to know.

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The Z1 without the clamp has two versions. One has a 1/4"-20 stud on top, the other a 3/8"-16. Just make sure you order the right one.

Those disks can be removed via a small 11mm socket, assuming they don't use a strong threadlocker. The one I bought recently did not have any threadlocker, so that disk can be removed and replaced by a clamp of choice. This thread has more information on the threadlocker: https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1339086

Under the disk is a stem with an M6-threaded hole and an anti-twist boss. You can attach a compatible QR clamp of choice to that stem. I assume that is your goal?


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Jan 10, 2014 12:17 |  #4

I just looked up the B2-pro and I don't think that has the cutouts for the boss used by the Z1 stem.

You can either screw the clamp directly onto the 3/8" stud version, or you'll need another clamp, like this one: http://www.reallyright​stuff.com/s.nl/it.A/id​.3608/.f (external link)


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Jan 10, 2014 12:31 |  #5

Thanks again sawsedge!

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I just looked up the B2-pro and I don't think that has the cutouts for the boss used by the Z1 stem.

You can either screw the clamp directly onto the 3/8" stud version, or you'll need another clamp, like this one: http://www.reallyright​stuff.com/s.nl/it.A/id​.3608/.f (external link)


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Jan 10, 2014 13:13 as a reply to  @ cmoy's post |  #6

I want to make sure I got this right...

I order this...
http://www.adorama.com​/AWMBZ1SP38.html (external link)

and this...
http://www.reallyright​stuff.com/s.nl/it.A/id​.3608/.f (external link)

No need for a 3/8" stud because the RRS B2-Por II comes with a flat headscrew?


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Jan 10, 2014 14:44 |  #7

That's the right ballhead, but you'll have to ask RRS to be sure. It sounds right but I'd check with them.


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Jan 10, 2014 14:56 |  #8

Thanks again sawsedge!

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That's the right ballhead, but you'll have to ask RRS to be sure. It sounds right but I'd check with them.


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Jan 10, 2014 15:00 |  #9

cmoy wrote in post #16594427 (external link)
I want to make sure I got this right...

I order this...
http://www.adorama.com​/AWMBZ1SP38.html (external link)

and this...
http://www.reallyright​stuff.com/s.nl/it.A/id​.3608/.f (external link)

No need for a 3/8" stud because the RRS B2-Por II comes with a flat headscrew?

That is correct. I ordered the same products a few months ago, and it worked perfectly (just be sure the screw included with the RRS clamp is an M6 screw, and not the 1/4x20 screw).


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Jan 10, 2014 15:04 |  #10

GREAT! Thanks seres!

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That is correct. I ordered the same products a few months ago, and it worked perfectly (just be sure the screw included with the RRS clamp is an M6 screw, and not the 1/4x20 screw).


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Jan 11, 2014 07:57 |  #11

All the above is correct, you have the right Z1 and screw knob clamp from RRS. When the Z1 arrives, take it to Home Depot or wherever you buy the 11mm socket because you'll need a socket with a thin wall; there isn't much room between the edges of the bolt on the screw and the base plate.

RRS also make a self-adjusting lever clamp that now fits all types of plates - no adjustment necessary and they work just fine. I just put one on my Z1.


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Jan 11, 2014 08:37 |  #12

Thanks Peter! Ordered the RRS clamp. Now I need to decide if I want to trek to B&H or have it shipped :D Wish Adorama wasn't out of it :cry:

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All the above is correct, you have the right Z1 and screw knob clamp from RRS. When the Z1 arrives, take it to Home Depot or wherever you buy the 11mm socket because you'll need a socket with a thin wall; there isn't much room between the edges of the bolt on the screw and the base plate.

RRS also make a self-adjusting lever clamp that now fits all types of plates - no adjustment necessary and they work just fine. I just put one on my Z1.


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Jan 12, 2014 10:02 |  #13

It's likely that quite a few have sold recently since it got out that Arca are now using a very powerful threadlocker to secure their clamps. If you buy from B&H, I think the head with the ball locking knob on the left has a 1/4" screw, and the 3/8" screw version has the locking knob on the right. I would check their web site before ordering, and when it arrives try to take the round base off as soon as you get it. You may be lucky and get old stock.


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Jan 13, 2014 11:45 |  #14

Thanks again Peter! I picked up the Z1 yesterday. To our surprise B&H was not crazy crowded like usual!:D Was in and out in a few minutes. I was able to unscrew the threaded nut and remove the plate with no problems. I used a #11 socket. It was a snug fit but I was able to get the socket into the recess and unscrew the nut. All I need now is the RRS B2-Pro-II. Hope it arrives before the weekend.

BTW this ballhead is HUGE compared to my M10! :eek:

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It's likely that quite a few have sold recently since it got out that Arca are now using a very powerful threadlocker to secure their clamps. If you buy from B&H, I think the head with the ball locking knob on the left has a 1/4" screw, and the 3/8" screw version has the locking knob on the right. I would check their web site before ordering, and when it arrives try to take the round base off as soon as you get it. You may be lucky and get old stock.


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Jan 14, 2014 07:58 |  #15

Great! The ball has a diameter of 54mm and the Markins Q20 is a nearer model in terms of size to the Z1. I think you'll enjoy using it a lot, it's a very solid head.


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