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HuskyKMA
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Jan 10, 2014 21:25 |  #1

Looking to get started in the world of filters with a Lee Foundation Kit and a couple of ND grads. Budget calls for a max of two filters to start with, what should I get of the following being considered?

0.6 soft
0.9 soft
0.6 hard
0.9 hard

Or something else? Leaning towards getting a 0.6 soft and 0.9 hard to add some variety and (hopefully) cover a wider range of situations. Right now the photos I have in mind are mountains (Hood, Rainier, St. Helens) and coastal settings.

Also, for a 28mm lens, should I get the wide angle or standard adapter ring (this is on a crop body, 40D)?


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Jan 10, 2014 21:32 |  #2

I'd get the .9 as a soft, and probably the .6 as well, for shooting around here. The hard edge doesn't work as well when you have stuff like mountains protruding in your horizon. Get the wide angle adapter, as that way you'll already have it when/if you go to a wider lens.


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Jan 10, 2014 21:49 |  #3

0.9 soft (mountains) and 0.9 hard (coastal).

I have no use personally for 0.6 stop filters, I always use my 0.9's either individually or stacked.


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Jan 10, 2014 21:55 |  #4

I should probably add:

  • Mountain shots will be more common than coastals, especially in the near future.
  • I will also be getting a 77mm WA adapter ring for my 10-22mm, so 28mm isn't my widest focal length.

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Jan 10, 2014 22:15 |  #5

HuskyKMA wrote in post #16595618 (external link)
I should probably add:

  • Mountain shots will be more common than coastals, especially in the near future.
  • I will also be getting a 77mm WA adapter ring for my 10-22mm, so 28mm isn't my widest focal length.

A hard edge is always a must IMO regardless of how often you use it for coastal shots. You can flip it upside down and use it as a solid ND :)


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Jan 10, 2014 22:16 |  #6

I'd stick with the softs for now if you're limited to only 2 to begin with and maybe grab .9 and .6 hard as you can. I find that the .9 and .6 stack pretty handily around here with the 2 .9s getting stacked much less often.


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Jan 10, 2014 22:21 |  #7

Tom does have a good point on the hard edge, though, too.


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Jan 10, 2014 22:29 |  #8

Good point about the hard being used as a solid ND, I didn't think of that and I'd like that.

Would a hard edge be better in general for sunrises/sunsets until I can get a reverse?


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Jan 10, 2014 22:54 |  #9

back to the situation as to whether you have stuff on the horizon or not, for the sunrise/sunsets. Neither a hard or soft, on its own, is going to give you anything approaching a reverse, unfortunately.


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Jan 11, 2014 16:30 |  #10

OK, I think I'll start with a 0.9 soft and a 0.9 hard, then add the 0.6 ones later. Thanks for the help Eric & Tom.


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