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Jan 11, 2014 20:19 |  #1

I happened to get a super clean 70-200 f4 L IS for $825. Date code say 2007 I heard older IS sucked I just hope this year was a good year for IS.


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Jan 11, 2014 20:46 |  #2

Congrats! What took you so long? ;) Enjoy it in good health.




  
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Jan 11, 2014 20:47 |  #3

That was my first L as well. Enjoy!


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Jan 11, 2014 21:01 |  #4

AFAIK Canon don't do running upgrades to lenses without incrementing the "Mark" number, so your lens has the same IS system in it as a lens of the same model bought new now would. Mine is around that age, and the IS is fine.




  
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Jan 11, 2014 21:04 |  #5

Congrats on the new lens. I've heard its a stellar lens.


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Jan 11, 2014 21:13 |  #6

shutterbugcrazy wrote in post #16597926 (external link)
I happened to get a super clean 70-200 f4 L IS for $825. Date code say 2007 I heard older IS sucked I just hope this year was a good year for IS.

that statement applies to lenses older the f4 IS.


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Jan 11, 2014 21:26 |  #7

Congrats, melcat I believe I read where there have been instances they have. Apparently with lenses that had issues with some part like a faulty IS or AF. Wish I could remember/figure out what thread I saw it on.


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Jan 11, 2014 21:39 |  #8

melcat wrote in post #16598044 (external link)
AFAIK Canon don't do running upgrades to lenses without incrementing the "Mark" number, so your lens has the same IS system in it as a lens of the same model bought new now would. Mine is around that age, and the IS is fine.

they may not be substantial changes to qualify for an increment, but changes happen. http://www.lensrentals​.com/blog/2013/07/sile​nt-changes (external link)


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Jan 11, 2014 22:08 |  #9

545iBMW wrote in post #16597998 (external link)
Congrats! What took you so long?.

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Jan 11, 2014 22:23 |  #10

Congrats!


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Jan 12, 2014 07:00 |  #11

That is a magnificent lens!




  
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Jan 12, 2014 11:25 |  #12

My most used lens. Produce most keepers. The color rendering is fantastic.

I thought of selling it and going for 70-200 f/2.8 II. But I eventually decided not to do so because 70-200 f/4 IS is lighter and smaller and suits my need better.


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Jan 12, 2014 12:12 |  #13

You will never look back. The 70-200 4.0 was my first L and was a great lens. Enjoy


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Jan 12, 2014 13:01 |  #14

For one thing, "old IS" doesn't suck.

The EF 300/4 IS (1997) was one of the earliest lenses Canon redesigned with IS, is still being produced and continues to work very well. The EF 28-135mm from 1998 is another relatively early IS lens that's still in production and working well.

The earliest implementation of IS in an EF lens for their SLRs was Canon's 75-300mm IS in 1995. But Canon had plenty of experience with IS already, having been producing video cameras and lenses with it for some time before then.

It was 1999 when Canon got really serious about IS and rolled out 300/2.8, 400/2.8, 500/4 and 600/4 super tele lenses fitted with it. Those lenses' IS worked and still works impressively.

In fact, Canon's "old IS" worked so well that photographers abandoned other systems in droves to switch to Canon, sending almost every other SLR/DSLR manufacturer scrambling to implement some form of stabilization, too. (Canon's early digital conversion efforts and CMOS sensors were parallel reasons for a lot of their competitive success in the 2000-2006 time frame.)

So, forget anything you've heard about "old IS". It's utter bunk.

What is true is that IS has continued to be improved and later lenses, such as the Mark II versions of the 300/2.8, 400/2.8, 500/4 and 600/4 are fitted with a somewhat more sophisticated form of IS that's often good for about one additional stop of effectiveness. Also, a special Hybrid IS was developed for use on the 100L macro lens. At the same time, low cost versions of IS have been developed to allow it to be implemented even on entry-level kit lenses such as the 18-55mm and 55-250mm.

But it is also not true that Canon doesn't do "silent upgrades" in mid-production.

For example, the 70-200/2.8 IS (2001) was fitted with a different IS system after the first 1 or 2 years production, without any outward indication of the change. The 1D Mark III camera's focus system was changed considerably, too, with only a "blue dot" or the serial numbers to indicate the changed versions.

In the case of the 70-200, the change was made for serviceability of the lens and purportedly made no difference to performance or durability. That lens' IS is rated for 2 to 3 stops of effectiveness, no matter which version it has installed. The 1D Mark III camera was changed in response to problems with the original version of the focus system, at least partially attributed to overheating of certain components in that system.

Canon regularly makes internal changes to cameras and lenses without issuing a new model name. At some point, when specifications change significantly and/or outward characteristics are very noticeably different, they will issue a new designation.

But just how much this really matters is open to question. For example, the 7D, 5DIII and 1DX have seen significant functionality improvements through firmware upgrades, without any change in model designation. The differences between 1D Mark II and 1D Mark IIN, or between the Elan 7E and Elan 7EN film cameras are pretty minimal in comparison. Some would say the differences between 20D and 30D, or between Rebel T4i (650D) and T5i (700D) are fairly minor and incremental, too.

At any rate, Canon isn't anything like Sigma, who issue a new designation if someone coughs or sneezes on their lens assembly line.

Your 70-200/4 IS from 2006 (or later) has a somewhat more advanced form of IS that is rated to be good for 3 to 4 stops effectiveness (varies dependent upon the user, of course). That's about as good as it gets, from Canon or anyone else.

Stop worrying, go out to shoot with and enjoy your lens!


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Jan 12, 2014 17:40 |  #15

amfoto1 wrote in post #16599540 (external link)
But it is also not true that Canon doesn't do "silent upgrades" in mid-production.

For example, the 70-200/2.8 IS (2001) was fitted with a different IS system after the first 1 or 2 years production, without any outward indication of the change. The 1D Mark III camera's focus system was changed considerably, too, with only a "blue dot" or the serial numbers to indicate the changed versions.

In the case of the 70-200, the change was made for serviceability of the lens and purportedly made no difference to performance or durability. That lens' IS is rated for 2 to 3 stops of effectiveness, no matter which version it has installed. The 1D Mark III camera was changed in response to problems with the original version of the focus system, at least partially attributed to overheating of certain components in that system.

Canon regularly makes internal changes to cameras and lenses without issuing a new model name. At some point, when specifications change significantly and/or outward characteristics are very noticeably different, they will issue a new designation.

But just how much this really matters is open to question. For example, the 7D, 5DIII and 1DX have seen significant functionality improvements through firmware upgrades, without any change in model designation. The differences between 1D Mark II and 1D Mark IIN, or between the Elan 7E and Elan 7EN film cameras are pretty minimal in comparison. Some would say the differences between 20D and 30D, or between Rebel T4i (650D) and T5i (700D) are fairly minor and incremental, too.

At any rate, Canon isn't anything like Sigma, who issue a new designation if someone coughs or sneezes on their lens assembly line.

Your 70-200/4 IS from 2006 (or later) has a somewhat more advanced form of IS that is rated to be good for 3 to 4 stops effectiveness (varies dependent upon the user, of course). That's about as good as it gets, from Canon or anyone else.

Stop worrying, go out to shoot with and enjoy your lens!

thanks for that detailed reply and to silent upgrades, the link was posted so we can see that there are changes made in midstream production.


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