TTL Wireless Remote

I have finally started to use the flash for my photography (or at least started to learn about using the flash). I have 2 units – Canon 580EX II and Metz 50 AF-1, plus macro ring flash Phoenix 46.

I have used 580 as a master mounted on the camera and it triggered Metz as a slave. So far so good...

The advice I need is about wireless TTL triggers. I would like to have 580 and Metz off the flash and sometimes the macro ring flash on the camera as a fill-in.
Do I need 1 transmitter with the hot shoe to mount my fill in flash and 1 receiver or do I need 2 receivers? Can 580 act as a master if mounted on the receiver? Can it trigger the other slave flash (in this case Metz 50) if 580 is mounted on the receiver? Trying to see if I can get away with one set (1 transmitter + 1 receiver)...

I am looking at Pixel King Pro Flash trigger. Has anyone got experience with it? What would be the alternative?

Check out the Yongnuo 622c, they are very good. They also have a hot shoe so you can still have an on-camera flash if you want.

ShotByTom wrote in post #16604512
Check out the Yongnuo 622c, they are very good. They also have a hot shoe so you can still have an on-camera flash if you want.

Thanks Tom. I prefer the control LCD panel at Pixel King Pro. It looks easier to set some things from there than scrolling through the menu in camera (I shoot mainly on 6D). But YN is still there as an option.

Still not sure if I need one or two receivers for the setup described above.???

You dont need a master flash, the triggers take care of that function. So you need one trigger for the hotshoe and one for each flash used remotely. The Trigger set becomes the master so the flash mounted upon it becomes another slave flash.

gonzogolf wrote in post #16605582
You dont need a master flash, the triggers take care of that function. So you need one trigger for the hotshoe and one for each flash used remotely. The Trigger set becomes the master so the flash mounted upon it becomes another slave flash.

Yep, I got that... Trying to get away with less things to carry around.

DT Visual wrote in post #16605573
Thanks Tom. I prefer the control LCD panel at Pixel King Pro. It looks easier to set some things from there than scrolling through the menu in camera (I shoot mainly on 6D). But YN is still there as an option.

Still not sure if I need one or two receivers for the setup described above.???

Yougono is introducing a transmitter incorporating an LCD display.

They also allow High Speed Sync / Supersync / Hypersync / Shooting the tail.

DT Visual wrote in post #16605683
Yep, I got that... Trying to get away with less things to carry around.

I am puzzled by this comment. If you are going to use radio triggering there is no way to get around having a transmitter on the camera and a receiver under each slave flash. As mentioned before, a fill flash in the pass through hotshoe on top of a camera mounted transmitter is also in effect a slave. The only way to lessen the things you have to carry around is to get some of the newer flash units that have radio receivers built in. Of course you could always radio trigger one flash and try to use a simple optical slave sensor on another manual remote to keep your receiver count down. That works, but with the constantly dropping cost of radio triggers these days optical triggering has much less appeal than it used to.

All your trigger and flash options are outlined here: http://flashhavoc.com/

To specifically answer your question of whether a 580 mounted on top of a radio transmitter can still function as an optical ETTL master, the answer is no. The radio transmitter becomes the only master when mounted in the hotshoe.

draderusa wrote in post #16605814
I am puzzled by this comment. If you are going to use radio triggering there is no way to get around having a transmitter on the camera and a receiver under each slave flash. As mentioned before, a fill flash in the pass through hotshoe on top of a camera mounted transmitter is also in effect a slave. The only way to lessen the things you have to carry around is to get some of the newer flash units that have radio receivers built in. Of course you could always radio trigger one flash and try to use a simple optical slave sensor on another manual remote to keep your receiver count down. That works, but with the constantly dropping cost of radio triggers these days optical triggering has much less appeal than it used to.

All your trigger and flash options are outlined here: http://flashhavoc.com/

To specifically answer your question of whether a 580 mounted on top of a radio transmitter can still function as an optical ETTL master, the answer is no. The radio transmitter becomes the only master when mounted in the hotshoe.

Thanks Dave.