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How does the 28-135 compare to the 24-105L on a full-frame camera

 
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Jan 16, 2014 08:55 |  #1

I'm going to get the 6D soon and am trying to save as much money as possible, so I might skip the kit lens (24-105L) buy purchasing just the 6D body and just apply the 28-135 USM IS to it instead.

I've used both lenses before (renting, owning, etc.) on crop sensors, and there is a noticeable difference in quality. The 24-105 is better.

However, the 28-135 was designed to work with a 35mm piece of film (or full-frame sensor, if you will).

So, that's my question: Although the difference on a crop sensor is quite apparent, will a difference in quality be as noticeable when using the 6D with both lenses?

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Jan 16, 2014 09:10 |  #2

This link might help. (external link)

I had a 28-135mm for about 2 minutes. Then I sold it as quickly as I could. The 24-105 is a far better lens, whether on crop or FF.


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Jan 16, 2014 09:12 |  #3

Thank you, Kirk. I knew that DPReview had a camera studio comparison tool but I didn't know a lens comparison tool existed. I shall bookmark that for today and the future.

Thank you.

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Jan 16, 2014 09:13 |  #4

I got the 28-135 with my 40D, I used it on my 5D until a decent deal popped up on a 24-105. It took me about half a day to sell the 28-135 (and I'm a lens hoarder). I just knew the 28-135 would never be mounted on my camera again.




  
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Jan 16, 2014 11:10 |  #5

EOS-Mike wrote in post #16610159 (external link)
Thank you, Kirk. I knew that DPReview had a camera studio comparison tool but I didn't know a lens comparison tool existed. I shall bookmark that for today and the future.

Thank you.

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Yeah, TDP's Lens Comparison Tool is a great way to get a good idea what the lens will be like. You can change the camera body, and all sorts of settings. Just a cool tool.


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Jan 16, 2014 11:14 as a reply to  @ KirkS518's post |  #6

Years ago I picked up an open box 50d/28-135 combo
Within 20 minutes of testing it, I listed it on ebay.

The 24-105 was an absolute gem on my 50d


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Jan 16, 2014 12:53 |  #7

In your images, you'll see almost no difference between the 28-135 and 24-105 at the focal lengths and apertures they share.

It is nice having 24mm wide, but at the wide end the 24-105 tends to have more vignetting. On the other hand, a little more reach is often handy, but at the long end the 28-135 benefits from being be stopped down a bit to sharpen it up (f8, vs wide open at f5.6). If you look at resolution charts, the 24-105 is slightly better wide open, mostly in the corners. Both vignetting and corner sharpness will be seen more on a FF camera than a cropper. But the differences really aren't all that great.

You can see this at the above link, comparing the two lenses with the various tools on the website. Just keep in mind that those test shots are quite magnified, so you won't see as much difference in your images at normal viewing sizes.

The minimum focus distance/close focusing ability, USM auto focus performance, and IS effectiveness are all nearly identical. The 28-135 is 1/3 stop faster at 28mm. The 24-105 is 2/3 stop faster at 105mm.

The biggest difference between the two zooms is build quality and sealing. The 24-105 feels more solid and durable and it likely has better sealing against dust and moisture (neither lens is truly "weatherproof", though). Overall, the 28-135 is better than kit lens quality, is fairly typical Canon "mid-grade/USM" build quality.... It commonly has a slighly loose feeling front barrel, though that doesn't seem to effect image quality or focus accuracy at all. It's focus and zoom rings also aren't as nice as the L-series. The 24-105 feels more solid and "fine tuned", though it's not uncommon for it's red stripe to fall off. Both lenses tend to develop "zoom creep", where they self-extend while carrying them nose down. That's probably more common on the 28-135, but there are some cheap DIY fixes for it detailed online.

Of course, because so many have been sold in kit and some people react like a couple of the above posters, the 28-135 can pretty easily be found and bought very lightly used for around $200-250 U.S. New I think it's around $450, but I've never paid that for one. In comparison, the L-series lens costs $1150 new or around $750-775 used. Of course, the 24-105 includes a matching lens hood like most L-series, while the 28-135 the hood is sold separately for around $25 (tho all the used copies I've bought have incl. the hoods).

Over the years I've owned and used four or five different copies of the 28-135.... I currently have two of them I use on both FF and crop cameras as "walk-around" zooms, backups to my 24-70, and loaner lenses. Sometimes when I have to hike a distance with a big telephoto, I'll swap out both 24-70/2.8 and 70-200/2.8 for one of the 28-135s. That saves a lot of space and weigth. I've only briefly used the 24-105 and just couldn't justify 3X to 4.5X the cost for what is nearly the same lens, except for better build quality and sealing.


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Jan 16, 2014 13:16 |  #8

I had them both, 28-135 was horrible compared to 24-105L. EF 24-105 4L is very good standard zoom lens, IS is really nice option.


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Jan 16, 2014 15:11 |  #9

you will need the 24-105 on the FF for general uses


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Jan 16, 2014 15:13 |  #10

but if you don't want one of them
you can try and test the wider 17-40 f/4 L
it's a good lens too


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Jan 16, 2014 15:25 |  #11

I am one of the few that is in the same boat as amfoto. I bought two 28-135mm lenses, I dropped my first one, and when I bought the 5d2 + 24-105L kit I sold the second 28-135mm. I used the 24-105L for a few months but just wasn't impressed with it for the price. Yes build, colors and contrast, sharpness...... are all better on the 24-105L but most of that you won't see after you have done some post production work and you have resized for web viewing or printed on 4x6 or 5x7. I sold my 24-105L for a small profit and bought my current 28-135mm plus hood for $150, the same profit I got from the 24-105L haha. I really don't use the focal length much and it has been a loaner lens to my girlfriend. I use it almost never now that I have the new 24-70mm f/4L IS. But I still stand by my opinion that the 28-135mm is a great cheap lens alternative and worth looking at.


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Jan 16, 2014 15:52 |  #12

Thanks for the feedback. I guess I still have some thinking to do.


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Jan 16, 2014 21:52 |  #13

amfoto1 wrote in post #16610648 (external link)
In your images, you'll see almost no difference between the 28-135 and 24-105 at the focal lengths and apertures they share.

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That is absolutely not the experience I've had having owned both lenses


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I had the 28-135 and Tamron 28-75 at the same time. I used them mostly on a 5D, but also on a 60D. I found the f/2.8 of the 28-75 more valuable than the extra range of the 28-135. I sold the Canon. I've never used a 24-105.


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Jan 17, 2014 04:50 as a reply to  @ EOS5DC's post |  #15

Can't comment specifically on the 28-135 but felt it was worth mentioning the 24-105L is blistering on my new Canon 6D. I thought it was good on my 500D cropped sensor but FF it really has come alive. The clarity has me bowled over.

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