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Jan 21, 2014 11:19 |  #256

Jon_Doh wrote in post #16620485 (external link)
The Nikon D200 has a terrible sensor. That's your problem.

It's not a great sensor, but it can't possibly be bad enough to cause blurred images and lack of good composition.

It's quite capable of producing sharp images.


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Jan 21, 2014 17:54 |  #257

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Yes better. Have a think about why the last landscape and helicopter shots are better..

Neither are against the light.

The landscape is with the light behind you and with some nice broken cloud to make the sky interesting.

The helicopter fills more of the frame and again the light is coming in from the side..

Tip. If you're taking picture of birds and aeroplanes in the sky, unless you can pretty much fill the frame, there is a likelihood that the subject will end up underexposed. This is due to the way camera metering systems work. One or two stop of EV compensation are often useful in my experience.

Those two shots should help you to have more confidence in your equipment. The improvement has nothing to do with the RAW+JPEG setting and everything to do with composition and lighting.

And that prett much concludes this thread. :-)


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Jan 22, 2014 10:02 |  #258

Glenn NK wrote in post #16624024 (external link)
It's not a great sensor, but it can't possibly be bad enough to cause blurred images and lack of good composition.

It's quite capable of producing sharp images.

OK. You've been around a while so I'm going to assume you didn't mean to say that a sensor can cause a lack of good composition. ;)


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Jan 22, 2014 10:14 |  #259

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No matter how you or anyone else tries, a $300.00 kit camera and a $200.00 kit lens is not capable of giving results that a $5,000.00 camera and $10,000.00 lens will produce. Unfortunately, the OP is expecting high priced results from low priced gear.

I disagree.

A skilled photographer can take much better pictures with a a $300.00 kit camera and a $200.00 kit lens than an unskilled photographers can with a $5,000.00 camera and $10,000.00 lens,


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Jan 22, 2014 10:30 |  #260

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I disagree.

A skilled photographer can take much better pictures with a a $300.00 kit camera and a $200.00 kit lens than an unskilled photographers can with a $5,000.00 camera and $10,000.00 lens,

I agree...

This isn't an award winning photo, but I have received many comments on it.

Taken with a 30D and the old non-IS kit lens... Not sure how a $15K setup would have done better than a $500 setup? Seems like Canon's marketing department has done their job better with some folks vs others. ;)

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Jan 22, 2014 18:22 |  #261

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OK. You've been around a while so I'm going to assume you didn't mean to say that a sensor can cause a lack of good composition. ;)

I see your point here;) good compo belongs to the eye of the person in the viewfinder...

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Jan 22, 2014 18:26 |  #262

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I agree...

This isn't an award winning photo, but I have received many comments on it.

Taken with a 30D and the old non-IS kit lens... Not sure how a $15K setup would have done better than a $500 setup? Seems like Canon's marketing department has done their job better with some folks vs others. ;)

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Depends if it is 15K or 500 by todays money or a few years back, is i had purchased all my gear when new(if it had been all at same time) my set up including original pp of LR4 would have been nearly 2000.

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Jan 22, 2014 18:51 |  #263
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The comment from bratkinson was clearly directed towards the bird shot and not in general....:rolleyes:


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Jan 22, 2014 19:28 |  #264

I have learned a massive amount from posting this, first off - the D200's chunky nature suits my stubby hands aka midget type proportions(me not the camera lol) big time excuse the pun) but honestly i have picked up alot of usefull advice - get a tripod(the sort you put on a table would suit me fine to use on the ground) and important (for me) dont shoot when the neighbours poodle is about he knocks me over and i dont want my camera getting ruined, take more care and time composing shots using the normal habbits - stand still as poss, high as poss sh speed esp above 320 for 300mm with IS/VR yet wide as small as poss ap from f8 upwards if poss, and increse Iso to over 400 as the other settings would require this, and most of all - Hold breath and keep till shot is taken.


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Jan 23, 2014 01:22 |  #265

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I dont drive have no transport live miles and miles away from civilisation, nothing of interest to shoot appart from hills, and more hills, "oh dont foreget hills" i might if im lucky see a cat or there is our dog could take lots and lots of pics of him - you know the set up try to get him to do something interesting then flash on fire away.
Like i said All my pictures come by way of convenience by point and shoot while out walking the dog or sitting watching the planes going to fly over the pond.
That sums up my picture taking subjects....

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