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Feb 05, 2006 13:52 |  #1

This tire was in the middle of the Bayshore in Redwood City. Sometimes the drought makes us see what is burried underneath ....

This is a shot with my Canon Rebel (external link). For this one I used the Canon 75-300mm USM IS (external link). I am pretty happy with the f-stop, but still very frustrated with the softness ...
The exif info is posted under the comments tab on my personal website (external link).
All suggestions are greatly appreciated.

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Feb 06, 2006 01:11 |  #2

I have no idea what that means to be happy with the f-stop. I am also very curious when someone expresses concern about the "softness". If they were bolting the camera down in the lab and shooting a resolution target and not getting numbers that compare with those taken by professionals who make their living in scientific testing, then I would find it worth worrying about. Otherwise, no! There are too many things like not being on a tripod, or not focusing correctly or having direct rays of the sun hitting the lens or the subject being in motion, etc., etc. - any of which can lead to "softness".

Anyway, back to your image. It is nicely composed and has a full range of tones for a low key picture. Perhaps the only thing negative is the subject itself, which as you say, makes one wonder what all lies beneath the surface.

Nicely done!


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Feb 06, 2006 12:00 |  #3

If by f-stop you mean to say you are happy with the depth of field- I think it is good too. As for softness- it looks okay to me, but if you want it sharper, use unsharp mask. It's a nice shot, well composed, but doesn't really "grab" my attention.


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Feb 06, 2006 12:28 as a reply to  @ ajbalazic's post |  #4

The usual curves tweak and sharpening does improve the shot. I have done one if you would like to see. Probably best if you change your signature/avatar to reflect that you don't mind edits though. Unless of course, you do.

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Feb 08, 2006 23:55 as a reply to  @ blue_max's post |  #5

blue_max wrote:
The usual curves tweak and sharpening does improve the shot. I have done one if you would like to see. Probably best if you change your signature/avatar to reflect that you don't mind edits though. Unless of course, you do.

Graham

I would love to see your edition. I looked for the option you suggested but didn't find it. Could you please educate me as to how I can authorize editions?
Thanks in advance.
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Feb 09, 2006 01:15 as a reply to  @ Califfoto's post |  #6

Hi,

It's user CP and edit profile.

Here you go. Helps a bit.

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Feb 09, 2006 10:56 as a reply to  @ blue_max's post |  #7

blue_max wrote:
Hi,

It's user CP and edit profile.

Here you go. Helps a bit.

Graham

Woah...
This is amazing. Would you mind sharing how you did this? I have photoshop CS and use one of Fredmiranda's plugins to sharpen. Are there any specific readings that I should use with the Unsharp Mask function?
Thanks a lot


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Feb 09, 2006 12:36 as a reply to  @ Califfoto's post |  #8

Califfoto wrote:
Woah...
This is amazing. Would you mind sharing how you did this? I have photoshop CS and use one of Fredmiranda's plugins to sharpen. Are there any specific readings that I should use with the Unsharp Mask function?
Thanks a lot

I use FM plug-ins for sharpening. I used the medium one. Before that I just used the curves dialogue box. It alters as you fiddle, so have a go. I basically made a bit of an 's' curve, where I put a point about a third of the way up and dragged down to lighten the highlights and the same, but opposite on the shadows. It basically adds contrast. The sharpening does have a slight contrasting effect too.

The major drawback with the shot is the amount of mid-grey in the background. Other than that, it seems to work for most shots that people post. I think a lot of shooters are unaware of how good their shots can be with just a little help from photoshop. It still needs a bit of vision in the shooting though!

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Feb 09, 2006 13:19 as a reply to  @ blue_max's post |  #9

blue_max wrote:
I use FM plug-ins for sharpening. I used the medium one. Before that I just used the curves dialogue box. It alters as you fiddle, so have a go. I basically made a bit of an 's' curve, where I put a point about a third of the way up and dragged down to lighten the highlights and the same, but opposite on the shadows. It basically adds contrast. The sharpening does have a slight contrasting effect too.

Graham

Thanks so much Graham for the edit and all your guidance that I will try to apply to my future shots. I've recently started to play around with a couple of rangefinders (Voighlander Bessa L (external link) and Canonet QL17 GIII (external link) ).
I have the feeling that I'll be using your technique with these shots quite often.
I'd love to have your comments on these shots (HERE (external link))


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Feb 09, 2006 14:53 as a reply to  @ Califfoto's post |  #10

Hi,

I think you mistake me for a photographer!

I have a camera and know my way around photoshop, but feel ill equipped to be able to comment on a body of work.

If there is no point of reference in a shot (for example a face), then it is preferable to achieve as wide a gamut of shades as is possible. There ends my philosophy! Your shot was slighly compressed in the grey area and was improved by adding a little more contrast. You can go as far as the whites retain any significant detail and the shadows don't fill in.

The sharpening will add a little too.

Hope you have a play and see if you can tease a little more out of some of your shots.

Thanks for the comments though, it is very satisfying to think that I may have given someone a little help along the way.

Enjoy your photography.

Graham

nb I had a quick look and think you have a lot going for you.


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