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Jan 22, 2014 05:37 |  #1

I was just wondering -

i understood from a source that as the various ND numbers go up - the chance of a color cast grows. In the case of the big stopper - the known bluish cast.

I think it was also mentioned that adding an IR filter can counter such a color cast (to a point I would guess)

so has anyone tried stacking a big stopper (or similar 8-10 stop ND filters) and a different filter which includes IR filtering? Would that result in a neutral color cast? or at least LESS of one?

thanks for participating in my thought experiment...


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Jan 23, 2014 04:11 |  #2

Colour casts for high-density ND filters varies quite a bit. I have filters that produce a cool (blue) colour and others that produce a warm (orange) cast. The more you pay for a 10-stopper the less likely you are to suffer problems.

Using a filter that removes IR is unlikely to help a lot. My advice would be to read reviews and look at example images. Only the really cheap and nasty NDs are likely to produce a colour cast that isn't easy to fix in post-processing, if required.

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Jan 23, 2014 07:26 |  #3

OP - did you know ND filters are being manufactured with IR filters built-in?

Hitech makes one and claims to be the most neutral 10 stop filter available. And it's cheaper than the Big Stopper.

https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1355310


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Jan 26, 2014 11:16 |  #4

sorry - i didn't get back to this thread earlier.

Hollis - thanks for the examples. it helps put some things in perspective. I have yet, however, to decide which casting I like better. I suppose that it would also depend on the colors of the subject/background/for​eground and what I have learned to fix in photoshop! :)

v35skyline: yes, I noticed it. (i started the thread you linked to).... but again I am trying to get a handle on the various non-Lee options since it seems that many of the threads and recommendations are Lee-"heavy".

I corresponded with 2filter.com and I am considering the platinum IRND versions of the Schneider plates (4mm thickness BTW). The "problem" is that they have a 7 stop ND max. Is that enough for me instead of a 10 stop? I honestly don't know. Stacking filters would most likely buy me a problem with light leak. Or adding a 2mm big stopper....for the extra 3 stops in one plate.

anyway, thanks for your input.


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Jan 26, 2014 11:21 |  #5

Singh Ray just came out with their Mor-Slow 10 and 15 stop filters. They claim that their filter has far less of a color cast than the Lee, but it ain't cheap. ;) Personally I've found that their filters tend to warm the scene a wee bit, but nothing that isn't easily fixed.

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Jan 26, 2014 11:37 |  #6

thanks for the heads up - I always considered them for their reverse GND - but that 15 stop is sweet! though almost $600 for the 100X100 is a bit pricey, though doable. I am just not sure if there is enough time in day to delay a pic by 15 stops!!! :)


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Jan 26, 2014 13:27 |  #7

ceriltheblade wrote in post #16638346 (external link)
thanks for the heads up - I always considered them for their reverse GND - but that 15 stop is sweet! though almost $600 for the 100X100 is a bit pricey, though doable. I am just not sure if there is enough time in day to delay a pic by 15 stops!!! :)

There certainly is, trust me. ;) I've been contemplating the 15stop myself, though mostly for touristy areas.

This one was with about 12stops of ND, came out to about 4 minutes. . .

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