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Why difference in settings in EXIF data ?

 
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Jan 28, 2014 02:11 |  #1

hi gang

trying to understand why when I look at the EXIF data for an image
that's its giving 2 sets of info ......

Camera Model: Canon EOS 5D Mark III
Exposure Time: 1/125
Shutter Speed: 1/128.00
F-stop: f/10.0
Focal Length: 65.00
Exposure Bias: 0
Exposure Program: Manual
Metering Mode: Pattern
Flash Fired: True
White Balance: 0
Aperture: 6.63
exif:ISO 100

note the
exposure Vs shutter speed
F-stop Vs Aperture

Any thoughts ... is there a fault in the camera and the way its storing info for an image ? or ??

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Jan 28, 2014 02:34 |  #2

Davenn wrote in post #16643255 (external link)
Shutter Speed: 1/128.00
F-stop: f/10.0
Focal Length: 65.00

What software are you using? These values are actually stored as rational numbers, not decimal.

Aperture: 6.63

EXIF actually stores this in an obscure unit called APEX, which is not the same as f-stop. It looks like the program has served up the raw APEX number without converting it back to f-number.

exif:ISO 100

More software flakiness.

is there a fault in the camera and the way its storing info for an image ? or ??

The camera is fine, the software is not.




  
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Jan 28, 2014 03:22 |  #3

Hi melcat

Thanks for responding :)

OK before I responded to your comments I had to check something ....
I checked the image in "Digital Photo Professional" ( which is bundled with the 5D III)
and this is what it gave as shown below ....

The original info that I referred to in the OP is what came from ThumbsPlus V9 ( June 2013)

So As long as I know all is OK with the camera, in future I will always just post the data from Digital Photo Professional :)

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Jan 28, 2014 04:01 |  #4

A difference of 0.0001875 is what you are worried about? Worry about world peace, global warming, hunger, etc.


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Jan 28, 2014 04:38 |  #5

no not worried, you misunderstand ;)

just curious as to why one graphics program was giving 2 sets of information for the same image

see first post

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Jan 28, 2014 04:44 |  #6

OK, I hadn't picked up on the 1/125 vs. 1/128 difference. It is probably, and traditionally, actually 1/128s even though the camera says 1/125. Those powers of two must have been considered scary back when the shutter speed scale was standardized; back then it was also clockwork so the error was greater than the difference.

APEX 6.64 = f/10, so that's also close.

There are two sets of values stored, one set as APEX and one as seconds and f-number. The APEX value for shutter speed is called "ShutterSpeedValue" so odds on that's the one presented as "1/128.". I suspect - and have read - the APEX values are the actual values and the others the nominal, but don't have time to check that right now.




  
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Jan 28, 2014 05:36 |  #7

^^^ True.
If you start at 1 second, differences of one stop are:
1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32, 1/64, 1/128, 1/256, 1/512, 1/1024, 1/2048, 1/4096, 1/8192. The lcd speed display could show those numbers, no problem, but aesthetically it's just not neat and tidy, so from 1/16 they start rounding it off - 15, 30, 60, 125, etc.


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Jan 28, 2014 05:42 |  #8

thanks for the explanations guys

appreciated, never heard of the APEX units before ... we live and learn :)

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