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Jan 30, 2014 10:32 |  #1

I am in the market for a modestly-priced IPS monitor and have read countless threads on POTN and elsewhere. I would really love a 27" but most IPS screens in that size are past my budget of $300. I was primarily looking to get either the Asus PA248Q or Dell U2412M; the two most-commonly recommended monitors here on POTN.

Last night, I checked out the ViewSonic VX2770SMH-LED and was surprised by the sub-$300 price tag considering just like the other two on my list, it too has a non-reflective IPS panel but is a 27". The Amazon reviews are glowing (pun unintended) especially about its sRGB gamut and how it requires almost no calibration (biggest positive factor for me) out of the box. Some reviewers said their Spyder and Colormunki calibrations made an almost unnoticeable change.

Here's the URL: http://www.amazon.com …&psc=1&smid=ATV​PDKIKX0DER (external link)

I found almost no threads here on POTN where anyone asked about or was recommended a ViewSonic monitor (irrespective of model). Are they not considered quite as good as Dell or Asus among the budget-minded enthusiast crowd?


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Jan 30, 2014 11:27 |  #2

Well, it certainly looks like a decent monitor from the specs and reviews.


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Jan 30, 2014 12:14 |  #3

At work we have had a few models of Viewsonic monitors and TVs my manager was ordering (~20 of em) and they all died pretty fast (think like 2 years-ish). We replaced them with Samsungs and although I don't work in that dept anymore, the Samsungs are still alive almost 5 years since I left the department.

After I saw how many Viewsonics were going out, I wouldn't even consider it as an option for my house with my personal experience with them at work.

The Korean IPS monitors are about the cheapest one can find that is good quality with high reviews. Monoprice has these guys: http://www.monoprice.c​om/Product?p_id=9579 (external link)
which makes me a bit skeptical to think that Viewsonic can produce a good quality 27" considering they are a bigger brand than most Korean IPS panels you can find. Also, the monitor you linked is only 1080p which might have something to do with the price vs a 1200 or 1440


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Jan 30, 2014 20:58 |  #4

That makes sense; 1080p doesn't seem very common in 27"+ monitors.

I have ordered the Dell. Looking forward to testing it out over the weekend. I will start with the Windows 7 calibration and if that doesn't meet my needs, will look into Spyder et al.


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Jan 30, 2014 21:11 |  #5

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That makes sense; 1080p doesn't seem very common in 27"+ monitors.

I have ordered the Dell. Looking forward to testing it out over the weekend. I will start with the Windows 7 calibration and if that doesn't meet my needs, will look into Spyder et al.

You will need an external calibration device. A calibration device is actually looking at the monitor to view the output and comparing that with what it should be seeing. Without one it's all just guesswork.


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Jan 31, 2014 08:32 |  #6

Is Spyder Express sufficient for a hobbyist or do most of you use the Pro instead?


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Jan 31, 2014 13:57 |  #7

IIRC the hardware is the same, it's the software that is different. I imagine the express should work just fine for you. It really comes down to the level of functionality in the software.


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Jan 31, 2014 14:43 |  #8

ManiZ wrote in post #16649892 (external link)
Last night, I checked out the ViewSonic VX2770SMH-LED and was surprised by the sub-$300 price tag considering just like the other two on my list, it too has a non-reflective IPS panel but is a 27".

I don't use the VX2770SMH, but I use dual VA2703 monitors. I think they're pretty similar to the VX2770SMH.

Here are the specs:
http://reviews.cnet.co​m …4507-3174_7-35619220.html (external link)

A handful of us are testing the VA2703 to see if we'll roll them out to all of our workstations. I don't think any of us are prepared to recommend them.

It is very hard to get the brightness and contrast properly adjusted with these ones. There doesn't seem to be a configuration that works well for anyone. In looking at the screens, the pixels seem big. Everything looks a bit spotty. I've had to pull 8 of the 12 bulbs in my office out of the fixtures to try to reduce eye strain. One of the guys that is testing them pulled all of the bulbs out of the fixtures in his office and has reverted to using a little desk lamp. We're a month into testing these things, and we're all getting very frequent headaches.

The VA2703 is pretty dreadful for someone who works on dual displays for 8+ hours a day. I don't think I'd be willing to try the VX2770SMH after enduring these ones. Maybe you can find a local display VX2770SMH to play with in store before buying one via mail order?

The old 19" HP monitors that we're phasing out were a lot better, so I'm pretty sure it isn't our NVIDIA Quadro 2000 cards that are the issue.


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Jan 31, 2014 19:56 |  #9

ManiZ wrote in post #16652391 (external link)
Is Spyder Express sufficient for a hobbyist or do most of you use the Pro instead?

Which model do you have? The first Spyder colorimeter does not work with LED panels.


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Jan 31, 2014 22:36 |  #10

Scatterbrained wrote in post #16653150 (external link)
IIRC the hardware is the same, it's the software that is different. I imagine the express should work just fine for you. It really comes down to the level of functionality in the software.

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Which model do you have? The first Spyder colorimeter does not work with LED panels.

I don't have either Spyder yet; I am asking prior to purchase.


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Feb 01, 2014 21:05 |  #11

Another Dell U2412M owner here. I think you will find the 1920 x 1200 useful. I gives you that extra bit when viewing portrait orientation images. My older 1920 x 1080 sits to my left now on another system and is fine for most uses but the way you get a bit cut off the vertical height is annoying when it happens.


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Feb 03, 2014 18:43 |  #12

I have the U2412 and love it. I kind of hate it too though, i feel like a monitor snob at work now!


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Feb 13, 2014 12:28 |  #13

Funny, I just recommended ViewSonic in another thread earlier today.

I buy ViewSonic, and only ViewSonic monitors now, and have for over a decade. The key is to spend a bit of a premium and buy the VP series. The others are OK, but the Professional (VP) series is where they really shine.

The ViewSonic displays have consistent image quality and viewing angles whether the display is in landscape or portrait mode. Almost all of the other displays that I have used suffer to some degree (some are quite bad) once they're in portrait mode.

I have a pair of VP2365 on my desk at the office, and a VP2770 WQHD at home, and I wouldn't trade them in for anything, except an EIZO (much more money, but amazing displays). The 2770 came calibrated from the factory, included the report in the box, and I had to change zero- plugged it in, and started working.

I managed the Digital Signage and Display business for a Fortune 100 company for some time, so had display vendors sending me samples for testing and evaluation on a regular basis. The ViewSonics are the only ones that I opened up my own wallet for.

There are other great displays available, but none give you the performance/dollar that the ViewSonic VP series do.




  
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