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Feb 06, 2014 04:23 |  #1

Hi everyone, my first post so be nice! lol

I have loved photography for many years and for Christmas my partner bought me my first DSLR camera. The bundle consisted of the following:

Canon 600D
Canon 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS II
Canon 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS II
Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

I am wanting to buy another lens and the "Canon EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM" caught my eye and after reading around it seems to get good reviews. However I have a few questions.

The price of this lens varies on the net from as little as £455 to as much as £1400 and from what I can see now noticeable difference. Is there something I'm missing?

Also the main reason I was attracted to this lens was because of the fact it was described as a good 'walk about' lens which is what I'm after. Is this the best lens for the price?

I welcome any other input also and suggestions.

Thanks in advance,
Conor




  
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Feb 06, 2014 04:51 |  #2

It's my most used lens, not on purpose, just because it is so reliable in getting a good shot. It is designed as a high quality all-round lens and therefore a good walk-about. I might call it the best lens for the price for this and generally photography.

One reason for the price differences you are seeing is that many people buy the 24-105L in a kit lens bundled with their camera to save money, then sell the lens off to make a little money. You can probably get a brand new 24-105L for a very good price, just make sure of the integrity of the seller.


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Feb 06, 2014 04:59 |  #3

also my most used lens, just has lots to offer (for me)

light weight, good reach, good quality .


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Feb 06, 2014 06:45 |  #4

The 24-105mm is a very nice lens indeed. Love it on my 5dii. The constant aperture is a plus.


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Feb 06, 2014 07:30 |  #5

Welcome to POTN, Conor :)

I do not consider the 24-105 to be a good walkabout lens for crop cameras (like your 600D). A good walkabout lens in my opinion should go from quite wide to short/medium telephoto. On full frame, yes, it is one of the best. You'll notice all the previous posters (me included) who have replied to your question own a full frame camera, which is probably why they like the lens so much. 24mm on crop is not wide.

A better lens for your purposes would be the Sigma 17-70 OS Contemporary or the Canon 15-85. These both go from wide-short/med tele, making them very versatile. Alternatively, if you are happy with the range of your 18-55, you can look at the Sigma 17-50 OS and Tamron 17-50 VC/non-VC (or the more expensive and IMO not worth it, Canon 17-55), which have a fixed aperture of f2.8, making them good for low light.


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Feb 06, 2014 07:44 |  #6

I like the 24-105L on my 60D. It goes from the equivalent field of view of 38-169 on full frame or film. It is sharp, with good color and contrast. You already have the 18-55IS , and that is good for outside in good light. People are recommending the 17-55 F2.8 IS for the F2.8 aperture, but I prefer to use a fast prime indoors, when the light gets low.
I would recommend using your current lenses before rushing out to get more. If you want a good low light indoor lens, consider the Canon 35F2IS. I find that it gets used more than the zooms, but that is by me. However, consider your needs before buying. I prefer the 24-105 for a trip to the zoo with my family, as the 105 is much better than 55 for the long end of a shorter 17-50 or 55 zoom.




  
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Feb 06, 2014 07:45 |  #7

ConorBoyd90 wrote in post #16667457 (external link)
Also the main reason I was attracted to this lens was because of the fact it was described as a good 'walk about' lens which is what I'm after. Is this the best lens for the price?

It would depend on what you want to do with it.

You're already covered in that range by your current lenses. The question to ask would be: what are your lenses not doing for you, and would the 24-105 do those things better?

When you buy a "L" lens like the 24-105, it won't necessarily get better photographs for you. You're primarily buying a more solidly built lens, weatherproofing and USM focusing. Are these things important to you? You'll also get a different range in a single lens. Do you often shoot in the 18-24 range? 24 mm isn't very wide on a crop camera. For some people, that's not important (e.g. it's not important to me), but for others it's a problem.

As for the potential for "better" images, the "L" lens will give you slightly better colour and contrast rendition than your current lenses (although that's correctable when you process your images). It will also give you constant f4 throughout the range.

I chose the 24-105 for my crop camera for several reasons. I photograph primarily living things (people and animals), and the range is ideal for that. I already owned a wide-angle lens (12-24 mm) for the few occasions when I need a wider view. Because I use the lens a lot in my home studio, I don't often need a very wide aperture (e.g. f2.8), so f4 is plenty for me. And I wanted a faster-focusing lens to be able to take action shots outdoors. The combination of these factors made the 24-105 a good choice for me.

Although the 24-105 does a wonderful job on crop cameras, it was made for use on full-frame cameras. There are lenses made specifically for crop cameras (the EF-S designation) that will give you a different and, some would argue, more appropriate focal range: 15-85 mm, 18-135 mm, etc. If you find you often use your current lens at around 18 mm, one of these may be a better choice for you. If you haven't considered them, you should probably take a look before making your decision.

The other thing to consider is whether you use your 18-55 or your 55-250 the most. The "best lens for the price" is a lens that you're going to use and enjoy the most, and that gives you what you find is lacking in your current lenses. If you find that you're doing a lot of sports photography, for example, it may be better for you to spend your money to replace the 55-250 with something that offers faster focusing (e.g. a 70-200). If you use your 18-55 the most and are satisfied with the range but want to experiment more with depth of field, then a zoom that offers constant f2.8 may be a better choice (e.g. Tamron 17-50, Canon 17-55).

The list of possibilities is endless. The 24-105 is a great lens and excellent value for money, but only if it's going to allow you to do the things you want to do. You've only had your current lenses for a matter of weeks. Before dropping large amounts of cash on more equipment, it's important to know what you expect to get out of your new lens. Then you can determine what is truly the best value for money.


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Feb 06, 2014 09:30 |  #8

While i had a similar kit to what you have; and sold parts of it off and picked up a 24-105; I upgrade yet. You just got your toy; enjoy it and learn. 18-55 is a good walkaround in it's own right. Once you have a better understanding of the pros/cons of different lenses you can make a more informed decision about what you would enjoy the most.


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Feb 06, 2014 09:36 |  #9

Its a great lens, that said, I think there are better options for you to use on your camera. On the rebel its not particularly wide and not particularly long. Consider the 17-55 2.8 IS or perhaps the Ef-s 18-135.




  
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Feb 06, 2014 10:02 |  #10

I used my 24-105 on my 600D virtually all the time since buying it.


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Feb 06, 2014 10:20 |  #11

I bought mine used last week for $679+tax Looks like a good copy. Pay attention to the sellers feedback - anything below 99.7 is NOT good. I got lucky and found mine at the local camera store, but I bought my 17-40 off ebay from a 100% seller with over 100 feebacks. Little bit of an over supply with the 24-105mm right now. prices are good. It is a 'kit' lens for several full frame cameras.


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Feb 06, 2014 11:53 |  #12
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ConorBoyd90 wrote in post #16667457 (external link)
Hi everyone, my first post so be nice! lol

I have loved photography for many years and for Christmas my partner bought me my first DSLR camera. The bundle consisted of the following:

Canon 600D
Canon 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS II
Canon 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS II
Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

I am wanting to buy another lens and the "Canon EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM" caught my eye and after reading around it seems to get good reviews. However I have a few questions.

The price of this lens varies on the net from as little as £455 to as much as £1400 and from what I can see now noticeable difference. Is there something I'm missing?

Also the main reason I was attracted to this lens was because of the fact it was described as a good 'walk about' lens which is what I'm after. Is this the best lens for the price?

I welcome any other input also and suggestions.

Thanks in advance,
Conor


Nice general carry around lens, great build quality.
Heavy
Wide end has quite a bit of distortion.
Pretty fast focus and ok stabilizer
constant autofocus override in one shot autofocus mode, I love this
Can make some great images from 35mm upwards, but again too much distortion below that for me! (distortion can be corrected in post)

If you do buy one, get rid of the other lenses as they are redundant, except possibly the 50 1.8.

The used prices reflect that it only costs 700 bucks or so to get one in a kit with a 5d mkiii or 6D. You are probably seeing people who bought the kit but moved on to other lenses thus dumping the 24--105.


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Feb 06, 2014 11:59 |  #13

ERJL wrote in post #16668327 (external link)
If you do buy one, get rid of the other lenses as they are redundant, except possibly the 50 1.8.

The used prices reflect that it only costs 700 bucks or so to get one in a kit with a 5d mkiii or 6D. You are probably seeing people who bought the kit but moved on to other lenses thus dumping the 24--105.

How does the 24-105 make the 18-55 redundant? He would lose a considerable amount of width.




  
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Feb 06, 2014 12:10 |  #14

To answer the question, yes it probably is the best lens for the price, as long as you get it cheap enough.

Canon bundles these lenses with 6D and 5Diii cameras, and it adds roughly $600 or less to the price of the camera. Many people buy the kit bundle then sell off the lens to bring the camera price down a little bit. In the US, before the 5Diii and 6D came out bundled with the lenses, they were going for $900 brand new. I bought mine for $800 when the 5Diii kits came out and thought I got a great deal. Now you can get them new for $650-$700 because there is an abundance. your best bet is to buy one that was part of a kit. it will be brand new and you will pay a fraction of what a brand new boxed one would cost.


Now as to the need, only you can decide if you need it. It is an excellent walk around lens and on my T3i it produced noticably better pictures than the 18-55 lens did. Since I did not find myself using my kit lens at the 18mm focal length, I didn't miss it by going with the 24-105. So you need to ask yourself what focal length you use on most of your photos, and if you wish you had something you don't have now.




  
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Feb 06, 2014 12:30 as a reply to  @ mikeinctown's post |  #15

The 24-105 takes very sharp/natural photos.
Check out the mtf specs compared to the 24-70 ii in 24mm.

http://www.dpreview.co​m …i&version2=0&fl​2=24&av2=4 (external link)


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