V-860 Ving TTL

Whortleberry wrote in post #16890467
BAD design point (to my mind) of the v860C is ....NO BEEP. Makes remote power settings a PITA to check. Other than that, seems a good little unit at a fantastic price.An awful lot more people - including very, very many on this Forum - haven't got a single LP-E6 battery to their name (eg. users of 20D, 30D, 40D, 50D, 1D in it's various guises). Why condemn them to paying GBP £72 for a Canon battery when they can all use the Godox original at GBP £24? Plus they'd need a GBP £43 Canon LC-E6 charger as well, their camera would come with some other charger not an LP-E6 fitting.
£24 or £115 - total no brainer - and that's without even considering potential patent problems with Canon. Nope, that battery is fine as it is now.

Beware holding up Quantum (owned by venture capitalists, I believe) as shining examples. All may not be quite as it would appear to be (I can say no more than that at this stage).

hi Berry !!!

LOL, it's already a nightmare, should I sell the Quantum now, hahaha ...

I bring this battery discussion because I saw some Ving 860 battery with broken cell,
makes it larger in size and won't be easy to put it inside battery compartment
also not easy to slide it out, maybe it's just quality of the cells or wrong treatment of it

the idea about using LP-E6 because the popularity and availability and better quality,
the thing about high discharge rate of LP-E6, I am aware of it but can not comment
because I have no info about it

tongki wrote in post #16890992
hahaha,
bought it several years ago and kinda forgot about the price difference

Godox can make some improvement on the wireless thing,
it really looks stupid FT-16 hanging on the AD-180 like that,
they made a better design with FT-16s on Ving 860 but still not precisely fit

and maybe it's just me, I think using FT-16 is kinda strange,
I have to push SET button to confirm adjustment to the slave unit

I mean,
compare to Quantum Pilot it's easy, just dial the settings and it changing,
what I don't like about Quantum Pilot is the battery part,
using CR123, not easy to get, expensives and got to bring a spare because you don't know how many power it got left and quick drain,
FT-16 using AA is cheap and easy

like you said, looking to the price difference,
it's OK lah, hahaha ...

Meanwhile!

Used the V860 for the first time at a wedding, bounce flashed like crazy all through the reception and the battery was still showing full at the end of the night, crazy

jbsg02 wrote in post #16898309
Used the V860 for the first time at a wedding, bounce flashed like crazy all through the reception and the battery was still showing full at the end of the night, crazy

Hi jbsg02,

A commentor on my website is having issues with the 24-105 at the 105mm end. Bouncing the V860c with the zoom at 105mm is giving 3 stops underexposure.

Exposure compensation will correct the issue, though it still shouldn't be there.

If you still have the 24-105 lens, have you noticed this issue? or could you possibly check the result compared to a wide zoom, or direct flash. Thanks.
.

I tested it and its about 2 1/2 stop under exposed bounce flash 24-105 lens at 105mm

abbadon31 wrote in post #16898376
I tested it and its about 2 1/2 stop under exposed bounce flash 24-105 lens at 105mm

Ok thanks Scott. So it sounds like its not an isolated case. I guess we will get to see how Godox go with firmware updates. Thanks.
.

knowing that it can be adjusted throw FEC its not a bad problem. I don't use ETTL anyway, so I would have never known that bouncing it and using ETTL was that far off. Thanks Elv

Just received two V860s (actually Neewer TT860s). Based on my initial testing in comparison to 580 EX IIs, using TTL at zero compensation the exposure is pretty close. However, as I adjust FEC up and down to +1 and -1, the exposures are way off. On the minus side, -1 is equivalent to about -2 on the 580. That's too bad because I was hoping to use it on an event shoot today... and I mostly keep the flash on the minus side. I have tried this on a 7D and 5D3. I don't think lenses matter because it's through the lens metering anyhow.

I'll present some testing and image samples when I have more time.

Does this flash have a plug for an external battery? I want to be able to connect it to a battery pack also. This is the cable I found:

No.

If everything works as it should - then - there would be little need for any external pack

Had hopes for this unit even after the v2.1 firmware update. As mentioned here.

https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1393004

Unfortunately, still not reliable as a TTL unit. Here are my samples taken right after the update, compared against my 580EXII. I've include a histogram to show it's still about one stop underexposed.

So is the consensus that the TTL is still largely unreliable, especially when FEC is involved? I was thinking this would be a great flash to use (1) as a simple, main light for location portrait work (OCF) and (2) on camera for my assistant/second shooter during weddings.

If the TTL is unreliable, I may just save the cash and get the 850 (actually the Adorma Flashpoint version).

ShotByTom wrote in post #17068372
Does this flash have a plug for an external battery? I want to be able to connect it to a battery pack also. This is the cable I found:

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The old one don't but the new one will
They are replacing the lipo battery setup to double A's

TTL is way out of whack. I have resort to use them as full manual flashes... basically I bought some expensive V850s.