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Feb 12, 2014 20:46 |  #1

Local girls HS Bball tourney last weekend. I decided to try a remote camera for the first time at Bball. Mounted above the backboard above where a shot clock is mounted in many gyms. Worked well enough I may try it for the boys tourney next weekend.

Here are a few of the shots I kept. C&C appreciated.

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Feb 12, 2014 21:06 |  #2

Awesome shots! Would love to see a shot of the setup. Can you give some details on the camera, lens, remote, etc..


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Feb 12, 2014 21:07 |  #3

Certainly a great angle with great potential. 3, 5 and 6 work for me. You'll have better luck with the guys from that angle.

I've always wanted to mount a shot-clock remote, but NCAA rules make it difficult. It's a matter of making a mount that goes around the shot clock, or piggy-backing off a CBS Sports shot-clock camera mount.


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Feb 12, 2014 21:38 |  #4

Love the view! #4!!! Ball and Face within the net!!! WOW! :cool:


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Feb 13, 2014 18:54 |  #5

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Awesome shots! Would love to see a shot of the setup. Can you give some details on the camera, lens, remote, etc..

Ok, here is the setup. I only have one picture of it.

The camera is a 1D III with a 16-35 II. Since this backboard didn't actually have a shot clock mounted above it, I mounted the camera to one of the 2"x2" steel tubes of the backboard mount with a super clamp and a magic arm. It was about 4 ft above the top of the backboard. There was a strap on the camera wrapped tight around the steel tube and the magic arm and clamp had a steel safety cable run through them and around the 2"x2" steel tube.

The camera settings were 1/320, f/4, ISO 1600. I triggered the camera with PW III's. One gaffer taped to the magic arm and the other I was handholding. There was a cybersync transmitter in the hot shoe which then triggered the Einstein strobes.

Since I was shooting the girls, and they don't get up too close to the basket, I set focus on the face of a person about 6ft tall standing on the orange horizontal line you see in the pics above.

All in all, it probably took me an hour to mount it. Considering I was up and down the ladder about a dozen times or so. I think I could mount it now again in 15 mins or so.

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Feb 13, 2014 22:00 |  #6

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Ok, here is the setup. I only have one picture of it.

The camera is a 1D III with a 16-35 II. Since this backboard didn't actually have a shot clock mounted above it, I mounted the camera to one of the 2"x2" steel tubes of the backboard mount with a super clamp and a magic arm. It was about 4 ft above the top of the backboard. There was a strap on the camera wrapped tight around the steel tube and the magic arm and clamp had a steel safety cable run through them and around the 2"x2" steel tube.

The camera settings were 1/320, f/4, ISO 1600. I triggered the camera with PW III's. One gaffer taped to the magic arm and the other I was handholding. There was a cybersync transmitter in the hot shoe which then triggered the Einstein strobes.

Since I was shooting the girls, and they don't get up too close to the basket, I set focus on the face of a person about 6ft tall standing on the orange horizontal line you see in the pics above.

All in all, it probably took me an hour to mount it. Considering I was up and down the ladder about a dozen times or so. I think I could mount it now again in 15 mins or so.

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Feb 14, 2014 06:11 |  #7

Great shots and nice setup. I see you have the safety cables, too. Don't forget to mention those! Hate to have someone try to duplicate your efforts and hurt someone.


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Feb 14, 2014 08:43 |  #8

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Great shots and nice setup. I see you have the safety cables, too. Don't forget to mention those! Hate to have someone try to duplicate your efforts and hurt someone.

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Feb 16, 2014 16:43 |  #9

#4.......superb, great job....thanks for sharing the details


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Feb 17, 2014 06:54 as a reply to  @ soccersnaps's post |  #10

These are really nice Brent. I love the view of the player's eyes and the colors and image quality is great. It's really neat to see you and Mark (MSW) mount cameras on/near the backboard for a fresh perspective for high school basketball.

Your upcoming efforts with the boys should be even better. Can't wait to see the images.

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Feb 17, 2014 17:14 |  #11

Thanks Phil. Appreciate it from someone like yourself that has contributed so much to this forum.


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Feb 18, 2014 02:23 as a reply to  @ rdalrt's post |  #12

What focal length did you use for your 16-35 and what changes, if any, will you make for the boys?

One suggestion: You mention that you were about 4ft above the top of the backboard. The backboard is about 2 feet tall. Go to the DOF calculator with your focal length, type of camera body (1D III), f-stop (here f/4.0) and pick the focus distance and DOF that best suits your needs. Pre-focus your lens on the ground at the desired distance, set the lens to manual focus, and use gaffer tape to immobilize the focus ring so you don't inadvertently move it as you mount your gear.

You obviously didn't have any trouble with focus but I know from experience that some photographers (like me) can be klutz-y and need to gaffer tape that focus ring. :oops:


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Feb 18, 2014 08:43 |  #13

These shots were at 16mm. For the boys I have been debating about maybe zooming a little bit. 20-24mm?

Good idea about pre-focus on the ground. Will definitely do that if I am mounting it by myself. Last time I had a coach stand where I wanted to focus and used 10x live view with the camera already mounted.

This time I was thinking about setting focus a little higher (closer to rim) as the boys will actually get a little air time. The girls never get too far off the floor. :) But in looking at these pics, 16mm at f/4, the DOF looks pretty large. The rim to the faces seems to already be in pretty good focus. According to the DOF calculator, I had focus set at pretty much the hyperfocal distance for this setup. So it makes sense that most everything from rim to floor is in focus.

I was going to gaffer the focus and zoom rings, but forgot last time. Will remember to this time.


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Feb 18, 2014 11:08 as a reply to  @ rdalrt's post |  #14

Sounds great. Can't wait to see the boys shots. Let's hope for some good action at the rim.


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