Grip (boom arm) Question

I just bought an Avenger Wheeled light stand. I also bought an Avenger D200 as I'm planning on placing a boom arm on it. I Cant seem to figure out what arm to get for it. Every boom arm comes with a swivel, which is exactly what the D200 is. So what the heck is the D200 used for?

Here is the link to what I have: Thank you in advance for your help.

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …_D200_D200_Grip​_Head.html

The D200 holds grip arms. The D600 Baby Boom is what you want.

As a reference you can see both a D600 Baby Boom arm (Chrome) in the top of this image and a D520LB (40" Grip Arm in Black) directly under it:

IMAGE LINK: http://s103.photobucke​t.com …0236_zps3b1faff​e.jpg.html

BTW, aside from holding grip arms and flags/dots/fingers; you can use the D200 to hold a baby pin. This will allow you to get more downward angle on your light if you are using an Alien Bee as you can move the whole light a bit further out from the light stand as well as angle the body down (with ABs the mount is so far forward that angling the light down causes the modifier to hit the stand).

MDJAK wrote in post #16686738
I just bought an Avenger Wheeled light stand. I also bought an Avenger D200 as I'm planning on placing a boom arm on it. I Cant seem to figure out what arm to get for it. Every boom arm comes with a swivel, which is exactly what the D200 is. So what the heck is the D200 used for?

Here is the link to what I have: Thank you in advance for your help.

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …_D200_D200_Grip​_Head.html

The D200 is attached to the stand, and the grip arm is meant to be positioned with the swivel facing out. You don't generally want to attach anything heavier than a speedlight to the bare end of the grip arm as there is no recess or key to safely hold the lights and prevent rotation. What you want to do is get a 6" baby pin (with collar) and put that in the swivel end to attach your light. The swivel at the end of the arm gives you a lot of flexibility in angling and positioning your lights.

If you have a heavier light and modifier you can hang them upside down for stability, and the collar on the baby pin prevents it from falling out. However, the grip arms aren't really meant to hold a lot of weight. For that you'll want to look into a decent boom arm like the Avenger D600 (comes with it's own swivel) or the Kupo boom arm (comes with a plate that slides into a grip head like your D200).

MDJAK wrote in post #16686738
I just bought an Avenger Wheeled light stand. I also bought an Avenger D200 as I'm planning on placing a boom arm on it. I Cant seem to figure out what arm to get for it. Every boom arm comes with a swivel, which is exactly what the D200 is. So what the heck is the D200 used for?

Here is the link to what I have: Thank you in advance for your help.

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …_D200_D200_Grip​_Head.html

Mark, you don't need the grip head, just return it...and buy the D600.

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I need to order me a Avenger D600

Very much appreciate everyone's input. This place is great.

I can't return it because I threw out the box.

Thank you for the kupo link. That's what I ordered. And a 6" pin. Not totally understanding how to use it but hopefully it will be self evident.

I already have a d600 boom arm, but that's on my light stand without wheels which I rarely use. Naturally I had to get another one.

Thanks again

Strobo wrote in post #16686831
The D200 is attached to the stand, and the grip arm is meant to be positioned with the swivel facing out. You don't generally want to attach anything heavier than a speedlight to the bare end of the grip arm as there is no recess or key to safely hold the lights and prevent rotation. What you want to do is get a 6" baby pin (with collar) and put that in the swivel end to attach your light. The swivel at the end of the arm gives you a lot of flexibility in angling and positioning your lights.

If you have a heavier light and modifier you can hang them upside down for stability, and the collar on the baby pin prevents it from falling out. However, the grip arms aren't really meant to hold a lot of weight. For that you'll want to look into a decent boom arm like the Avenger D600 (comes with it's own swivel) or the Kupo boom arm (comes with a plate that slides into a grip head like your D200).

Dave Jr wrote in post #16686961
Mark, you don't need the grip head, just return it...and buy the D600.

MDJAK wrote in post #16687714
Thank you for the kupo link. That's what I ordered. And a 6" pin. Not totally understanding how to use it but hopefully it will be self evident.

The 6" pin is usually used in the grip head at the end of a grip arm. For use with the Kupo boom you might want to look at something like a drop-down baby pin.

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …_E700_E700_Baby​_Drop.html

MDJAK wrote in post #16687714
Very much appreciate everyone's input. This place is great.

I can't return it because I threw out the box.

Thank you for the kupo link. That's what I ordered. And a 6" pin. Not totally understanding how to use it but hopefully it will be self evident.

I already have a d600 boom arm, but that's on my light stand without wheels which I rarely use. Naturally I had to get another one.

Thanks again

no drilling required

Strobo wrote in post #16687914
The 6" pin is usually used in the grip head at the end of a grip arm. For use with the Kupo boom you might want to look at something like a drop-down baby pin.

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …_E700_E700_Baby​_Drop.html

Does that mean the regular pin I ordered won't b good? Or is this just better?

FJ LOVE wrote in post #16688035
no drilling required

Now you tell me?

MDJAK wrote in post #16688481
Does that mean the regular pin I ordered won't b good? Or is this just better?

The 6" baby pin is usually used in a grip head at the end of a grip arm. Unless you buy another grip head (like the D200) and attach that to the end of your boom I'm not sure how you'd use the pin.

The drop down baby pin is hinged and lights are meant to be attached to it upside down. The advantage here is that as you change the angle of the boom the angle of the light remains the same.

Strobo wrote in post #16689205
The 6" baby pin is usually used in a grip head at the end of a grip arm. Unless you buy another grip head (like the D200) and attach that to the end of your boom I'm not sure how you'd use the pin.

The drop down baby pin is hinged and lights are meant to be attached to it upside down. The advantage here is that as you change the angle of the boom the angle of the light remains the same.

You can use the baby pin right in the D200. I do this when using a beauty dish because you can't tilt he strobe head down otherwise. The forward mount location of an Alien Bee means that when you try to angle it down, the modifier hits the lightstand and inhibits movement. Granted if you're not using Alien Bees it's not too likely to be an issue. I just like to point it out because it's something that used to frustrate me.

You can see what I'm talking about here:

IMAGE LINK: http://s103.photobucke​t.com …0562_zpsdf56905​7.jpg.html

Got the arm and pin today. Is the arm in right? Where the heck does the pin go?

That's not where the arm goes. The plate is supposed to drop down with the friction disc.