Richard1959 wrote in post #15949874
Well it a lot of places around the world Engineer fix and maintain trains and infrastructure, Drivers drive trains, Guards is in charge of the safety of the passangers or goods, Signallers control trains and set the route by operating points and signals
and conductors are the things electric trains collect their current from
Yours a British railway electrical Engineer (and I don't drive trains)
That's how it is there huh.
Here in the States if you want to start a fight or one whale of an argument all you need do is insult a man's job. Especially a job he has performed most of his life. I't almost akin to insulting one's relatives.
In the States starting back a long time ago, the Locomotive Engineer was responsible for the power, from the front headlight all the way back to the knuckle (Coupler) attaching the engine(s) to the train.
The Conductor was solely responsible for the train. Front coupler to the very rear coupler and everything in between. In olden days the Conductor had in his charge several brakemen and flagmen which acted on his (the Conductor) orders to set or release brakes on the train for stopping, slowing or holding the train. The conductor was also responsible for picking up and setting out cars along the route as well as the safety of the crew.
As passengers were added to the trains the Conductor also became responsible for the passengers, collecting fares and watching for their safety.
Two totally separate and very different jobs.
Here Locomotive Engineers are insulted by a person who thinks operating locomotives is anything like driving a motor vehicle. It's not. Those that do not realize the difference never will and those that do do not need an explanation.
Trains are categorized by tonnage today. Tonnage. Say 8500 TONS. One train that has a rolling weight of 17,000,000 pounds. Now 17 million pounds is a great deal of weight especially when you as an operator are trying to make all that weight start moving or worse stop moving from a rolling speed of say 55 mph and be able to PLACE your stopped locomotive lead wheels within a few hundred feet of a point say a mile or two away on a grade of 1% or more. It is hardly at all anything like driving a car and stopping at a stoplight, unless your going to be driving without any brakes other than a very weak emergency brake and rely totally on an automatic transmission for slowing your speed down a steep hill to stop precisely before the stop sign at the bottom.
If your idea was to insult Locomotive Engineers and Conductors as a whole on a site devoted to photographing those same individuals performing their work, then congratulations you've certainly succeeded. If you were merely trying to be funny with a very poor and badly spoken joke there are several thousand of us that don't really appreciate your sense of humor.
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