6D VS 5d3 - Hard Time Deciding

Personally, I think the upgrades in the 5D3 (zillion times better focus system, dual slots, better body) is worth the upgrade.

Bakewell wrote in post #16702087
Any you are who? Welcome to the forum! I can hardly wait to see your positive contributions!

...a positive contribution from you would be most welcome. But posts like this:

and

are most certainly not positive. I own a 5D3 and I most certainly didn't waste my money, and taking digs at my intellectual capacity (and the other humans in the world) is such a passive aggressive, lame thing to do. But I look forward to your pathetic attempts to defend your behaviour.

Your posts are a bore and your behaviour is boorish. The only person you are impressing is yourself. Your opinion could be expressed, positively, as such:

And such a reply would be absent the sarcasm, the bile, the negativity and the scorn that your other posts in this thread (and from what I can gather, other threads) currently contain. But such a post would require a bit of effort from you: are you up to the task?

Here is a good Canon article describing the AF system on the 1DX and 5D3, since they share the same hardware solution, and some of the same software/firmware solutions.

http://learn.usa.canon​.com …n_crosstype_art​icle.shtml

Just for those that really are curious about what the 5D3 has over the 6D, without all the drama and antagonism at least one individual is bringing to the table, based on what I see from others' replies.

I actually learned a few things, I think I want to set up with AF points to work with better, than what I have been, for my sports shots. I may turn on only the cross AF points as selectable, to see what happens to my keeper rate. Never bothered with that before, I would use any of the points.

banquetbear wrote in post #16703421
...a positive contribution from you would be most welcome. But posts like this:

and

are most certainly not positive. I own a 5D3 and I most certainly didn't waste my money, and taking digs at my intellectual capacity (and the other humans in the world) is such a passive aggressive, lame thing to do. But I look forward to your pathetic attempts to defend your behaviour.

Your posts are a bore and your behaviour is boorish. The only person you are impressing is yourself. Your opinion could be expressed, positively, as such:

And such a reply would be absent the sarcasm, the bile, the negativity and the scorn that your other posts in this thread (and from what I can gather, other threads) currently contain. But such a post would require a bit of effort from you: are you up to the task?

Thanks for the rant Big Mark, sure to make you feel better! Do you have a new pic of the day? Looking forward to some inspiration....

TeamSpeed wrote in post #16703684
I actually learned a few things, I think I want to set up with AF points to work with better, than what I have been, for my sports shots. I may turn on only the cross AF points as selectable, to see what happens to my keeper rate. Never bothered with that before, I would use any of the points.

That's really interesting. I wish I could do that on my 70D. If that can be done on the 7D replacement, when it comes out, I may very well be investing in another body.

neacail wrote in post #16704459
That's really interesting. I wish I could do that on my 70D. If that can be done on the 7D replacement, when it comes out, I may very well be investing in another body.

But... in the 70D all points are cross-type!

In the 5DIII there are more points altogether, but some are not cross type. If you choose one of those as your initial point, it may hunt for a while. If you exclude them as AF points, the the choice will be only cross points with the possibility of no hunting, quicker AFing, more keepers. I believe this is what TS is alluding to...

MakisM1 wrote in post #16704485
But... in the 70D all points are cross-type!

In the 5DIII there are more points altogether, but some are not cross type. If you choose one of those as your initial point, it may hunt for a while. If you exclude them as AF points, the the choice will be only cross points with the possibility of no hunting, quicker AFing, more keepers. I believe this is what TS is alluding to...

Oops!

I understood what he meant, I just forgot that my 70D had all cross type focus points.

MakisM1 wrote in post #16704485
But... in the 70D all points are cross-type!

In the 5DIII there are more points altogether, but some are not cross type. If you choose one of those as your initial point, it may hunt for a while. If you exclude them as AF points, the the choice will be only cross points with the possibility of no hunting, quicker AFing, more keepers. I believe this is what TS is alluding to...

Correct, I will have to check how I have mine set up currently once I get home.

MikeG2012 wrote in post #16702800
I'm glad you think your opinions transcend the digital page and are audible! Wow your opinion really must be god-like!

Good thing I'm an atheist.

Have a nice day.

Should we pray for you?

Bakewell wrote in post #16704562
Should we pray for you?

I'm doing just dandy on my end.

If it'll make you feel better though, be my guest.

Thank you!

equiworks wrote in post #16699703
Thanks to everyone who offered up advice. I appreciate the time put in! Lots to read over before I decide. I don't have endless funds, so price really is a factor for me. I just wanted to make sure that if I was spending the extra for the 5d3, it's because I really needed to. If the 6D will fill my needs and I won't be left wanting more, then great. It's a big decision for me, and I really do appreciate the advice!

I find it unfortunate that some people feel the need to make fun of what others like to shoot. I've had photos published in multiple National breed magazines and in advertisements for some of North America's top dogs. Maybe someday when I grow up and decide to shoot difficult things like tree's and mountains, I'll need a real big girl camera.

Equiworks,

Have you decided on the camera? I use to show dogs but don't know if I will in the future. Anyway, I was at a show last September and was using my 6D with just a 70-200 f2.8 IS, just taking pics of friends with their dogs. I don't think I had to bump up the ISO too much for indoor. ISO 6400(I did go back and look and I had my WB wrong so everything looked yellow.) I am learning how to shoot with out being on Auto so I think the camera did fine. Now that I know just a little about the WB, I may be able to get better photos next time. In my opinion, since you know movement of these venues you want to shoot at, that in it self, should help you decide if you need something that will shoot faster. Also, you can rent the cameras to test them out to see what you like.

Sounds like someone has an overwhelming need to rationalize the purchase of budget equipment. There's nothing like repeating positive affirmations ad nauseum to change reality. Unfortunately, you can repeat it as often as you'd like, but there's nothing that will change reality. Off brand glass on consumer bodies will never perform as well the higher dollar options, period. If you need proof, merely look at the 6D "share your photo" thread and compare it with any of the higher quality body threads. Both artistic and technical quality of the images from the higher priced equipment is better. That is due to the fact that the equipment is more capable/higher quality and the photographer's generally are better/more experienced.

Equiworks, buy the highest quality you can and you'll be much happier in the long run. Or, at the very least, you won't have a need to spend all your time justifying your decision on the internet when you realize that cheaper isn't always better.

jecottrell wrote in post #16704893
Sounds like someone has an overwhelming need to rationalize the purchase of budget equipment. There's nothing like repeating positive affirmations ad nauseum to change reality. Unfortunately, you can repeat it as often as you'd like, but there's nothing that will change reality. Off brand glass on consumer bodies will never perform as well the higher dollar options, period. If you need proof, merely look at the 6D "share your photo" thread and compare it with any of the higher quality body threads. Both artistic and technical quality of the images from the higher priced equipment is better. That is due to the fact that the equipment is more capable/higher quality and the photographer's generally are better/more experienced.

Equiworks, buy the highest quality you can and you'll be much happier in the long run. Or, at the very least, you won't have a need to spend all your time justifying your decision on the internet when you realize that cheaper isn't always better.

I'm sorry, but I frequent various owner threads and I think the above statement is pure BS. All of the photo threads show excellent examples as well as cruddy ones. Why? Because photography is mostly what's behind the camera, not the camera itself. If anything I'd say I've observed the opposite of what you just said. Easily my favorite owner thread on this forum is for the original 5D. There are so many breath taking photos in that thread it's ridiculous.

jecottrell wrote in post #16704893
Sounds like someone has an overwhelming need to rationalize the purchase of budget equipment. There's nothing like repeating positive affirmations ad nauseum to change reality. Unfortunately, you can repeat it as often as you'd like, but there's nothing that will change reality. Off brand glass on consumer bodies will never perform as well the higher dollar options, period. If you need proof, merely look at the 6D "share your photo" thread and compare it with any of the higher quality body threads. Both artistic and technical quality of the images from the higher priced equipment is better. That is due to the fact that the equipment is more capable/higher quality and the photographer's generally are better/more experienced.

The comment in bold is complete and utter nonsense.
The rest I agree with.

jecottrell wrote in post #16704893
Sounds like someone has an overwhelming need to rationalize the purchase of budget equipment. There's nothing like repeating positive affirmations ad nauseum to change reality. Unfortunately, you can repeat it as often as you'd like, but there's nothing that will change reality. Off brand glass on consumer bodies will never perform as well the higher dollar options, period.

Usually true

jecottrell wrote in post #16704893
If you need proof, merely look at the 6D "share your photo" thread and compare it with any of the higher quality body threads. Both artistic and technical quality of the images from the higher priced equipment is better. That is due to the fact that the equipment is more capable/higher quality and the photographer's generally are better/more experienced.

I will say for same personal abilities having better equipment definitely helps.