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Feb 20, 2014 19:37 |  #1

Any track & field photographers in here? I'm a volunteer photographer for my son's team and would love to get some tips on how to be successful at shooting this sport. I don't want to give them mediocre pictures. They all deserve great images and I sure am going to try to deliver.

I have just received my 1DMKIIN and am so excited to use it. I'm a bit overwhelmed with this camera, but I'm confident I will be able to conquer the learning curve in no time. That is, of course, with a little help from my POTN friends. :D

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Feb 20, 2014 20:11 |  #2

The 70-200 will be your go-to lens, always at 2.8 to minimize background distractions. you can get creative with a few of the events (slow shutter, motion blur, wide angle...) but have a look at SI, ESPN, summer Olympics... zoom in nice and tight to give a feeling of the power and exertion of your athletes. Fast shutter speed is always appreciated, unless you want to show your creativity.


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Feb 21, 2014 04:57 |  #3

Not that I am a pro or anything... but "stay on the athlete" for longer than you think. Capturing an athlete's reaction to a personal best effort is probably has more "impact" than capturing the effort itself.


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Feb 21, 2014 13:27 |  #4

Fun one is to go to the end of the track and shoot the athletes doing hurdles coming right at you. You can usually get some great shots. Same with the long jump....the sand exploding at impact makes for good shots. Have fun....:)


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Feb 21, 2014 14:25 as a reply to  @ Firehouse's post |  #5

This won't be published on my blog for another month but it might be of help to you now.

How to Photograph the Long Jump

By Phil Zivnuska



The Long Jump and its cousin the Triple Jump are relatively straight forward to photograph but there are several simple techniques to improve your ordinary images and make them noteworthy.

The biggest photographic problems are poor backgrounds. The typical high school track meet will have numerous obstructions in the background and other competitors will be standing, sitting, loitering, or otherwise just be hanging out in the area you would prefer to be clean for your image. Nothing says "Who Cares" like a disinterested high school student appearing in the background of your capture. Additionally, the athletes who aren't competing at that moment will be wearing an assortment of coats, hoodies, shirts etc. and they will often look a bit tattered.

Fortunately, there are strategies to employ. First, the runway has to be clear for the long jumper to run on his approach. If you are lined up directly in line with the runway, that will allow you to have at least the area directly behind the jumper clear.

IMAGE: http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q225/zivnuska/2013/ZIVN3431.jpg
IMAGE LINK: http://s137.photobucke​t.com …ia/2013/ZIVN343​1.jpg.html  (external link)

Next, be sure you are shooting at a large aperture, perhaps f/2.8 or at least something close to that. That will assure as much background blur as possible.

IMAGE: http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q225/zivnuska/2013/ZIVN4089.jpg
IMAGE LINK: http://s137.photobucke​t.com …ia/2013/ZIVN408​9.jpg.html  (external link)


Third, get low. A low angle allows you to view the jumper against the sky. For this shot, I was literally laying in the dirt with my elbows on the ground. My position was right next to the officials with the rakes.


IMAGE: http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q225/zivnuska/2013/PZIV0659-1.jpg
IMAGE LINK: http://s137.photobucke​t.com …/2013/PZIV0659-1.jpg.html  (external link)


This extreme position was required to isolate the jumper against the sky instead of the cluttered group of onlookers.


When you are about to shoot a jumper, keep an eye on them all the way through from beginning to end. There can be a lot of intensity as the athlete runs to the takeoff point.


IMAGE: http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q225/zivnuska/ZZIV0309.jpg
IMAGE LINK: http://s137.photobucke​t.com …a/media/ZZIV030​9.jpg.html  (external link)


The landing is always a popular shot due to the spray of sand. Since there is usually plenty of light, getting a SS of at least 1/1000sec is easy.

IMAGE: http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q225/zivnuska/2013/PZIV0154.jpg
IMAGE LINK: http://s137.photobucke​t.com …ia/2013/PZIV015​4.jpg.html  (external link)



I wrote earlier about aligning yourself with the runway. At most high schools, the football field runs north and south. The long jump and triple jump areas also often run north and south on the edge of the field. In the typical 'after school' track meet, this means that the shadows from the setting sun will divide the face of the jumper into sun and shadow. In strong sun, that can make for a compromised image (see immediately above and below).

IMAGE: http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q225/zivnuska/2013/PZIV0544.jpg
IMAGE LINK: http://s137.photobucke​t.com …ia/2013/PZIV054​4.jpg.html  (external link)




Moving to the side of the pit will help with the sun angle but as seen earlier, be sure to get extremely low to view the jumper against the sky instead of obstacles. One last tip: If you are going to shoot against the sky as your backdrop, consider using a circular polarizing filter. The sky will be bluer, the clouds look whiter, and the colors will pop.

IMAGE: http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q225/zivnuska/2013/ZivnuskaPhlipS100of1.jpg
IMAGE LINK: http://s137.photobucke​t.com …uskaPhlipS100of​1.jpg.html  (external link)

A polarizing filter was used for the last two images as well as the Derby jumper (in green) further above.

Sometimes, the long jump is pictured directly from the side. This emphasizes the height reached by the competitor. In this case, the background is even more critical to the success of the shot. Consider shooting this with the sun at your back or even shooting into the sun and having the athlete silhouetted against the sky for an artistic view of the event.

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Feb 21, 2014 14:30 |  #6

Firehouse wrote in post #16706853 (external link)
Fun one is to go to the end of the track and shoot the athletes doing hurdles coming right at you. You can usually get some great shots

Yep!

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Feb 21, 2014 15:22 |  #7

Hi JennB

Whilst Zivnuska has produce some cracking images , most I think have been shot with something more expensive than a 70 - 200 .

JennB I have used the 1D series camera form the start and used the 1Dmk2 ( not the "N" , supposed to be better than the MK2 ) for 7 years without a hitch .

As long as you don't crop the image too much you will get cracking images .This image , although static , is the quality just can expect .

I agree my most used lens then and now is the 70-200 or you could go for a 135 F2 .

Most of my Track and field was shot at a private school in the uk …. http://www.stowe.co.uk …o-galleries/34-sports-day (external link)
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Feb 21, 2014 17:44 as a reply to  @ Otta's post |  #8

Most of the long jump photos were with the 70-200. #1, #2, #5, #6 all with the 70-200. #3 and #7 were with the 24-70.

The hurdle images were with longer glass.


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Feb 21, 2014 19:56 |  #9

Wow! Thank you all for the great tips. I really appreciate them.


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Feb 21, 2014 20:00 as a reply to  @ Zivnuska's post |  #10

Zivnuska wrote in post #16707017 (external link)
This won't be published on my blog for another month but it might be of help to you now.

How to Photograph the Long Jump

By Phil Zivnuska



The Long Jump and its cousin the Triple Jump are relatively straight forward to photograph but there are several simple techniques to improve your ordinary images and make them noteworthy.

The biggest photographic problems are poor backgrounds. The typical high school track meet will have numerous obstructions in the background and other competitors will be standing, sitting, loitering, or otherwise just be hanging out in the area you would prefer to be clean for your image. Nothing says "Who Cares" like a disinterested high school student appearing in the background of your capture. Additionally, the athletes who aren't competing at that moment will be wearing an assortment of coats, hoodies, shirts etc. and they will often look a bit tattered.

Fortunately, there are strategies to employ. First, the runway has to be clear for the long jumper to run on his approach. If you are lined up directly in line with the runway, that will allow you to have at least the area directly behind the jumper clear.

QUOTED IMAGE
IMAGE LINK: http://s137.photobucke​t.com …ia/2013/ZIVN343​1.jpg.html  (external link)

Next, be sure you are shooting at a large aperture, perhaps f/2.8 or at least something close to that. That will assure as much background blur as possible.

QUOTED IMAGE
IMAGE LINK: http://s137.photobucke​t.com …ia/2013/ZIVN408​9.jpg.html  (external link)


Third, get low. A low angle allows you to view the jumper against the sky. For this shot, I was literally laying in the dirt with my elbows on the ground. My position was right next to the officials with the rakes.


QUOTED IMAGE
IMAGE LINK: http://s137.photobucke​t.com …/2013/PZIV0659-1.jpg.html  (external link)


This extreme position was required to isolate the jumper against the sky instead of the cluttered group of onlookers.


When you are about to shoot a jumper, keep an eye on them all the way through from beginning to end. There can be a lot of intensity as the athlete runs to the takeoff point.


QUOTED IMAGE
IMAGE LINK: http://s137.photobucke​t.com …a/media/ZZIV030​9.jpg.html  (external link)


The landing is always a popular shot due to the spray of sand. Since there is usually plenty of light, getting a SS of at least 1/1000sec is easy.

http://s137.photobucke​t.com …ia/2013/PZIV015​4.jpg.html (external link)



I wrote earlier about aligning yourself with the runway. At most high schools, the football field runs north and south. The long jump and triple jump areas also often run north and south on the edge of the field. In the typical 'after school' track meet, this means that the shadows from the setting sun will divide the face of the jumper into sun and shadow. In strong sun, that can make for a compromised image (see immediately above and below).

http://s137.photobucke​t.com …ia/2013/PZIV054​4.jpg.html (external link)




Moving to the side of the pit will help with the sun angle but as seen earlier, be sure to get extremely low to view the jumper against the sky instead of obstacles. One last tip: If you are going to shoot against the sky as your backdrop, consider using a circular polarizing filter. The sky will be bluer, the clouds look whiter, and the colors will pop.

http://s137.photobucke​t.com …uskaPhlipS100of​1.jpg.html (external link)

A polarizing filter was used for the last two images as well as the Derby jumper (in green) further above.

Sometimes, the long jump is pictured directly from the side. This emphasizes the height reached by the competitor. In this case, the background is even more critical to the success of the shot. Consider shooting this with the sun at your back or even shooting into the sun and having the athlete silhouetted against the sky for an artistic view of the event.

Phil Zivnuska

http://zivnuska.zenfol​io.com/blog (external link)


Thank you for sharing this article, Phil. I really am grateful to you for posting it here to help me out. What amazing images! I am going to apply the techniques you mentioned to the best of my ability. :D


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Feb 21, 2014 20:02 |  #11

These shots are fantastic! I hope to be able to get some worthwhile images of my son doing the hurdles.

Phil, your blog is really helpful. I have bookmarked it. Thank you!


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Feb 21, 2014 20:08 |  #12

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Hi JennB

Whilst Zivnuska has produce some cracking images , most I think have been shot with something more expensive than a 70 - 200 .

JennB I have used the 1D series camera form the start and used the 1Dmk2 ( not the "N" , supposed to be better than the MK2 ) for 7 years without a hitch .

As long as you don't crop the image too much you will get cracking images .This image , although static , is the quality just can expect .

I agree my most used lens then and now is the 70-200 or you could go for a 135 F2 .

Most of my Track and field was shot at a private school in the uk …. http://www.stowe.co.uk …o-galleries/34-sports-day (external link)
Roy

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Fantastic images in your T&F gallery and Flickr, Roy! Do you use the 1DMkIIN and 70-200mm for all your sports shots? By the way, the photo above is outrageously sharp. Awesome!


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Feb 21, 2014 20:11 |  #13

What are your recommended custom/personal functions settings for the 1DMkIIN when it comes to track & field?


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Feb 22, 2014 04:00 |  #14

Hi JennB

Please to be of help …. 1dMk2 is a great camera , I foolishly traded my in for a Mk3 … Big Mistake , I hated it compared to the Mk2 .

I now use a Mk4 , but only so I could use higher iso settings and a little heavier crop , in case I had to make a shot out of nothing . ( a sale ) My favourite lens has to 70-200 2.8 Mk2 and mk3 1.4 converter a cracking combination .

The image above was taken in the UK where a long time ago I used to shoot ,print and sell on site .

This link will help you start ( it may not take you direct , but it will put you on the right page ) …. http://www.siphoto.com​/?canon1DM2N.inc (external link)

This was shot with the Mk2 , but with a 300 2.8

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Feb 24, 2014 08:12 |  #15

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Hi JennB

Please to be of help …. 1dMk2 is a great camera , I foolishly traded my in for a Mk3 … Big Mistake , I hated it compared to the Mk2 .

I now use a Mk4 , but only so I could use higher iso settings and a little heavier crop , in case I had to make a shot out of nothing . ( a sale ) My favourite lens has to 70-200 2.8 Mk2 and mk3 1.4 converter a cracking combination .

The image above was taken in the UK where a long time ago I used to shoot ,print and sell on site .

This link will help you start ( it may not take you direct , but it will put you on the right page ) …. http://www.siphoto.com​/?canon1DM2N.inc (external link)

This was shot with the Mk2 , but with a 300 2.8
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Thank you for the link, Roy. That's a nice shot above. I don't know if I can ever afford to buy a 300 f/2.8, but I would really like one. Do you own the version II of that lens? I know there's an older version.


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