FF back to crop. Anyone made this journey?

TJays wrote in post #16714611
Have one of each and always will (7D & 1DX)

Likewise, I use both. Depends on what I'm shooting as to which camera I use. I do tend to use the 7D's more often though.

No issue at all. I have a 6d currently, moved over to that after my 550D/T2i was stolen. Mainly due to curiosity, after all the reports of magic pixie dust coming standard with full frame cameras Love the 6D for the wider reasonably priced primes available for full frame. Getting reach is a bit more expensive with full frame though. If the AF on the new Fuji X-T1 works out as well in day to day use as early reports/tests suggest, I would jump without hesitation. They have, (Fuji) in a very short timeframe, built up a dedicated APS-C lens lineup of primes and zooms, that would suit me right down to the ground. And more are coming. Canon misses the boat here badly in their APS-C lineup.

i don't know
sometimes FF and sometimes crop bodies
but i didn't like L lenses on the crop bodies
i can use extenders with FF bodies without loosing image quality

speedync wrote in post #16715576
No issue at all. I have a 6d currently, moved over to that after my 550D/T2i was stolen. Mainly due to curiosity, after all the reports of magic pixie dust coming standard with full frame cameras Love the 6D for the wider reasonably priced primes available for full frame. Getting reach is a bit more expensive with full frame though. If the AF on the new Fuji X-T1 works out as well in day to day use as early reports/tests suggest, I would jump without hesitation. They have, (Fuji) in a very short timeframe, built up a dedicated APS-C lens lineup of primes and zooms, that would suit me right down to the ground. And more are coming. Canon misses the boat here badly in their APS-C lineup.

I've been eyeing that X-T1 as well. The main thing keeping me holding onto my 6D is probably the OVF, but the EVF in the X-T1 does look promising. I also hope they put a 135mm equivalent prime on their roadmap sometime soon. Until then though, Kipon did just come out with a EOS to FX focal length reducer which would allow me to not only use my Canon lenses (albeit without AF or Auto aperture), but also use all of the vintage lenses that I've already adapted to Canon If I hadn't just ordered the XF 35mm I'd have ordered one of those.

Horses for courses is what they say.

I have both crop xxD series and also HAD the 5D2. The full frame's advantage is with the better higher ISO performance, and it has a better resolution - this becomes more obvious when you pixelpeep. The full frame also has better color rendition and has creamier look out of camera.

When I want to shoot moving objects, and more reach, I use my 7D because I get more keepers, but when shooting static like portraits and landscapes, the FF has the advantage.

I shoot wildlife, and I'll never go back to crop for it.

Sure the 5Dc may not put many pixels on the subject, but the images from modern full frames are much sharper/cleaner (5D III, 6D, 1Dx).

That's not even factoring in that full frame cameras can simply shoot and obtain photos in situations crops just can't.

The combination of improved color, pixel-level sharpness, cleaner images and what seems to be better metering just smokes the crop bodies. Wildlife photos are just much more vibrant.

sardines wrote in post #16716485
I have both crop xxD series and also HAD the 5D2. The full frame's advantage is with the better higher ISO performance, and it has a better resolution - this becomes more obvious when you pixelpeep. The full frame also has better color rendition and has creamier look out of camera.

Assuming you are comparing the same basic generation of crops to FF... As technology improves, then newer crops perform better than older FF (in most cases).

TeamSpeed wrote in post #16716601
Assuming you are comparing the same basic generation of crops to FF... As technology improves, then newer crops perform better than older FF (in most cases).

I was referring to my comparison between 50D, 7D and the 5D2 that I had...

sardines wrote in post #16717316
I was referring to my comparison between 50D, 7D and the 5D2 that I had...

Well the 7D and 5D2 are about in the same generation, the 50D isn't.

as you can see from my signature I have both and some small cameras. When I got the 5DIII I honestly thought I could sell off the crops as everyone said "just use the 5DIII and crop in for wildlife at distance"
My experience has not shown a better image than the 7D at all in that case. Of my three DSLRs the 1DIII is the best at following and staying with a moving subject even though the 5DIII has an amazing auto focus system, maybe I just fluked it with a great 1DIII. I keep 1DIII for fast sports shots outdoors where I know I wont be focal length limited as there is only so much you can crop a 10 megapixel camera.

The 5DIII is pretty much a great all round camera for just about everything but when I need extra reach and only have a 100-400 and 1X4TC its still is not enough and I don't want to have to shoot at F8 all the time. I cant afford other lenses and I don't want to carry the extra weight around anyway.

The 7d is very good for wildlife, it does have its faults, it loses focus at times so you have to refocus and of course the noise issues but in most cases I deal with that post process without any big issues. I am keen to upgrade the 7D but not sure what to, either a 1D4 or wait for 7DII which if it a 1X6 crop and better than 7D would be preferred as i photograph a lot of birdlife and many at distance.

It always amuses when when i see statements such as "I upgraded to a full frame" its not an upgrade, its moving to a different camera really. Both have their pros and cons. its up to you to decide what it best for you

TeamSpeed wrote in post #16717714
Well the 7D and 5D2 are about in the same generation, the 50D isn't.

Yes, and I am comfortable using 3200 ISO on the 7D, but on the 5D2, 6400ISO

I tried a 600D , just because I was tired of the weight and size of my 5D2. After a few shots, I realized that I can never go back to crop.

Full frame is in my blood.

kin2son wrote in post #16712466
Then why not just use a crop mirrorless?

And best of all, $650 body only!

Simply put, there's very little point to own a crop DSLR for 99% of shooters out there. And soon enough when FF mirrorless matured, DSLR will become extinct.

Well, if the person has a stable of FF lenses a crop body is a mighty handy way of utilizing the lenses rather than buying new lenses for some other manufacturers crop body.

$650 will get yo a 60d which will actually shoot action and not require buying new lenses. Yes, I know the new Sony has the "World's Fastest AF" - accompanied by a string of qualifiers, but the Canon crop body is one purchase and no additional lenses to buy.

Osiriz wrote in post #16717962
I tried a 600D , just because I was tired of the weight and size of my 5D2. After a few shots, I realized that I can never go back to crop.

Full frame is in my blood.

well thats fine if you dont shoot distant birds or have a rather expenive and rather heavy wildlife lens, full frame is the best for wildlife close up or portrait and landscapes etc but unless you have that nice big fat expensive focal length a full frame is not that great after cropping the life out of a photo

Osiriz wrote in post #16717962
I tried a 600D , just because I was tired of the weight and size of my 5D2. After a few shots, I realized that I can never go back to crop.

Full frame is in my blood.

Try shooting with a newer Fuji sometime, it might change that opinion