Mar 15, 2015 11:33 | #5956 navydoc wrote in post #17475905  Still a bit noisy, especially in the sky but I really like the color tones of the shot. Nice find and shot. I didnt find it so bad because technically the shot is great. Composition, the lighting and so... Sony A7RII | Sony A7S
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vinmunoz Cream of the Crop  More info | Mar 15, 2015 13:38 | #5957 that was shot with an A7S, right? What ISO? | SONY A7SIII(2) | A73 | A6000 | Sony A7IV | Sigma105 | FE1635F4 | Tamron 70-180mm F2.8 | Tamron 17-28 Tamron 28-75 | FE50F1.8 | Sony 16035F4PZ | SEL30mm F3.5 Macro | Canon 24mm TSE | Laowa 15mm Shift
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ISO 8000. #jcovellphoto
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vinmunoz Cream of the Crop More info | Mar 15, 2015 14:37 | #5959 not bad but i expect it to be more clean coming from A7S. not your fault. Just looking at how the A7S perform.A resampled 36mp might yeld the same result at the same ISO level. | SONY A7SIII(2) | A73 | A6000 | Sony A7IV | Sigma105 | FE1635F4 | Tamron 70-180mm F2.8 | Tamron 17-28 Tamron 28-75 | FE50F1.8 | Sony 16035F4PZ | SEL30mm F3.5 Macro | Canon 24mm TSE | Laowa 15mm Shift
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Johnny010 Senior Member More info Post edited over 8 years ago by Johnny010. (4 edits in all) | I do believe there has been a little too much hype about the ISO capabilities of the camera.  Leeds Lurking February 24, 2015 21-07 by Jonathan Covell Photography, on Flickr I do not know why, but I will accept that shot of the University building was noisier in the sky than the above shot at ISO 25,600. This is probably because the very light polluted sky was close to the exposure of the buildings, giving little contrast in the image and no "real blacks". When collapsed, like in the 25,600 image above, the shadows are clean. Like really clean. As for middle greys, unless collapsed from a more overs-exposed shot, they tend to have a little more noise than I would like. The A7s is shot 2 stops over in s-log2...maybe this has something to do with it...Then again...I can not comment. Sorry to go on, but here is another at the same (ISO 8000) taken in the light polluted city centre again.  Leeds Lurking February 01, 2015 21-56 by Jonathan Covell Photography, on FlickrI have added a grain to it, but still, there is a noticeable noise in the sky at ISO 8000. Noise is always in shadows. Unless I really upped the contrast on it, that noise will be there. Sure I can photoshop in a graduated filter, but what is the fun in that? In my somewhat experience related conclusion Positives 1. The A7s is an awesome little camera with a maybe 1-2 stop advantage in low light if you are exporting photos no larger than 4k. 2. It is a video god for its size. Pack the Shogun 4k recorder on it and you have 1080p 60fps, 4k 24fps with 14 stops of latitude. 3. The dynamic range at low ISOs is awesome. I mean awesome. It easily puts out 13 stops at ISO 100. About a stop more than the 5D mk III. Over ISO 6400, it pulls away from the Canon 5D mk III by over 2 stops Dynamic Range advantage. This is why it is a low light camera. That noise in the shadows? It is only there because the sensor can see detail in those shadows. On the 5D III, they will be clipped. 4. It is tiny. Seriously. These mirror-less things are a dream for a run and gun camera for my hobby and also my video work. I could not be arsed running around wit my 5D III all day with a 24-70mm strapped on it if it were like a family/friend day out. I would and have...but I would much rather it be the A7s. Negatives 1. Lenses. Yeah there are adapters and such...but I want a 40mm f2 pancake, a 35mm f1.4 that is the kinda same compactness (which may be physically impossible...but I still want it. Canon FD 50mm 1.4 is tiny...smaller than the modern f1.8 so I do not see why this is an issue imho). 2. 12MP. You want more than an A3 print? Forget it. For wall art it is more than enough unless you want to wall paper a wall with it. 3. It feels a bit plastic on the buttons. It just isn't built like the Mg-Al alloy of the 5D III youd expect for a £2,000+ camera. I would not want to be doing my events and night-life work with it. I would wear it out in 6 weeks. 4. Just the menu system. For the love of god. PS. Yeah, 12.5 stops at ISO 320:  Walking in Dovestone January 10, 2015 16-26 by Jonathan Covell Photography, on FlickrWhite snow, direct sunlight but can still make out the branches in the trees and the strands of hair in the sheep's black fur? All captured in one frame. It is a winner in my eyes.  Yorkshire in Winter by Jonathan Covell Photography, on FlickrThe advantage at ISOs over 6400 for the dynamic range is even greater, I have done some late night lurking with the 5D but I take the A7s over it every time now. #jcovellphoto
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vinmunoz Cream of the Crop More info | Mar 15, 2015 15:08 | #5961 oh so sometimes it depends on the scene huh. i don't know how sensor works. it's just strange for non tech people like me. On that second 25,600 ISO shot, it's awesome though. That's already the max ISO of the A7R. hehe | SONY A7SIII(2) | A73 | A6000 | Sony A7IV | Sigma105 | FE1635F4 | Tamron 70-180mm F2.8 | Tamron 17-28 Tamron 28-75 | FE50F1.8 | Sony 16035F4PZ | SEL30mm F3.5 Macro | Canon 24mm TSE | Laowa 15mm Shift
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vinmunoz Cream of the Crop More info | Mar 16, 2015 03:48 | #5962 |
Mar 16, 2015 15:13 | #5963 OM 200 F5  Cliff top near Pelican Cove by charlie617, on FlickrSony 24-70 F4  Mountain side - Pelican Cove by charlie617, on FlickrOM 200 F5  Wave trails - Pelican Cove by charlie617, on FlickrSony A7siii/A7iv/ZV-1 - FE 24/1.4 - SY 24/2.8 - FE 35/2.8 - FE 50/1.8 - FE 85/1.8 - F 600/5.6 - CZ 100-300 - Tamron 17-28/2.8 - 28-75/2.8 - 28-200 RXD
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Mar 16, 2015 15:16 | #5964 ZE 2/100 MP  Swirl by charlie617, on FlickrZE 2/100 MP  Tidepools - Pelican Cove by charlie617, on FlickrZE 2/100 MP  Wave action - Pelican Cove by charlie617, on FlickrSony A7siii/A7iv/ZV-1 - FE 24/1.4 - SY 24/2.8 - FE 35/2.8 - FE 50/1.8 - FE 85/1.8 - F 600/5.6 - CZ 100-300 - Tamron 17-28/2.8 - 28-75/2.8 - 28-200 RXD
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Charlie Guess What! I'm Pregnant! More info Post edited over 8 years ago by Charlie. | Mar 16, 2015 15:22 | #5965 OM 200 F5  Bird island - Pelican Cove by charlie617, on FlickrRok 14  Pelican cove east side sunset by charlie617, on FlickrSony A7siii/A7iv/ZV-1 - FE 24/1.4 - SY 24/2.8 - FE 35/2.8 - FE 50/1.8 - FE 85/1.8 - F 600/5.6 - CZ 100-300 - Tamron 17-28/2.8 - 28-75/2.8 - 28-200 RXD
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Mar 16, 2015 15:33 | #5966 ZE 2/100 MP  The Trail down by charlie617, on FlickrSony 24-70 F4  Street view from mountain top by charlie617, on FlickrSony A7siii/A7iv/ZV-1 - FE 24/1.4 - SY 24/2.8 - FE 35/2.8 - FE 50/1.8 - FE 85/1.8 - F 600/5.6 - CZ 100-300 - Tamron 17-28/2.8 - 28-75/2.8 - 28-200 RXD
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Mar 16, 2015 22:00 | #5967 Awesome shots Charlie. - Alfredo -
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thanks, been shooting with my minimal kit, and its been great, past few times, been leaving the DSLR at home for landscapes (I typically bring 2 cameras, however the hike was somewhat strenuous). Sony A7siii/A7iv/ZV-1 - FE 24/1.4 - SY 24/2.8 - FE 35/2.8 - FE 50/1.8 - FE 85/1.8 - F 600/5.6 - CZ 100-300 - Tamron 17-28/2.8 - 28-75/2.8 - 28-200 RXD
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davidfarina Goldmember  More info Post edited over 8 years ago by davidfarina. | Mar 17, 2015 05:16 | #5970 And two more in colors to show how the A7s handles lowlight colors:  Image hosted by forum (717995) © davidfarina [SHARE LINK] THIS IS A LOW QUALITY PREVIEW. Please log in to see the good quality stuff.  Image hosted by forum (717996) © davidfarina [SHARE LINK] THIS IS A LOW QUALITY PREVIEW. Please log in to see the good quality stuff. Sony A7RII | Sony A7S
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