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Photographing in Bear and Cougar Country

 
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Mar 03, 2014 09:10 |  #1

First off , please excuse me if I have incorrectly placed this in the wrong section , please move to the appropriate should you wish...:)

Now dont laugh but.. I got myself all freaked out -Im from little old England with no real dangerous animals roaming when Im out landscape photographing and Ive just booked a trip to Cannmore , Canada , Its been a long awaited dream to go to Canada and photograph the stunning scenery.

The problem is now its booked I cant help feeling totally freaked out at the thought of me treading on the doorstep of these great creatures and upsetting them, Im sure this will raise a smile on the face of some of you who know and live in thiese types of places and Im also sure there can be no guarantees I wont come across one of them , in fact judging by the Cougar sighting map (external link) , they are everywhere, Night or Day..:eek:

Now Im going to study hard on everything related to Bears and Cougars between now and July 19th when I go , and what to do and what not to do when/if-hope never confronted by one, but I ask my photographing community who either travel to these places or live amoungst them for advice , experiences on encounters however scary.

Ive ordered a book on "Bear attacks and Avoidances" by Stephen Herrero (external link) (Over the top?)
and intend to read the heck out of it ,although the more I read the worse Im getting!.... obvouslly Bear spray is first on my list after landing!

Love to hear how you cope with all this?

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Mar 03, 2014 09:21 |  #2

Cougars and bears generally try to avoid people. Make some noise while walking in the woods and they will avoid you.


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Mar 03, 2014 09:29 |  #3

BobG wrote in post #16731121 (external link)
Cougars and bears generally try to avoid people. Make some noise while walking in the woods and they will avoid you.

Thanks Bob , thats on my list! , I seen stories of mountain bikers getting had by cougars.. and one in the UK newspaper only this week stalkng 2 kids and one of them shot it!

I should stop Googling stuff I think.

Isnt the begining of July Mating Season for Bears?.. does that mean no baby bears in July?

Also I see "Travel in Groups" as one helpgul thing.. Only me and the missus and she wouldnt get out the car in Tromso at Christmas to see the Northern lights for fear of being attacked by a Reindeer .. Im doomed!


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Mar 03, 2014 09:43 as a reply to  @ *Jayrou's post |  #4

Mountain bikers are usually moving very fast and that makes it easy to startle cougars and hikers. The last thing you want to do is to startle a cougar.


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Mar 03, 2014 09:47 |  #5

BobG wrote in post #16731177 (external link)
Mountain bikers are usually moving very fast and that makes it easy to startle cougars and hikers. The last thing you want to do is to startle a cougar.

...Not helping Bob...:lol:


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Mar 03, 2014 09:51 |  #6

You're probably safe from a cougar if you're in a group, but you should read this: http://www.cougarinfo.​org/attacks3.htm (external link)

Some people recommend wearing bells to notify bears that they're in the area & giving them a chance to avoid you. There's an old joke... "You can tell the difference between cougar scat & bear poop. Bear poop has little bells in it!" ; D

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Mar 03, 2014 09:59 as a reply to  @ PhotosGuy's post |  #7

For several years this was one of my neighbors. He's just a big kitty and we all got along just fine.

We also had a clowder of bobcats living nearby. I considered them more dangerous than the puma, as they were much more unpredictable.

If you do encounter one of our furry friends in the wild, don't panic. Avoid direct eye contact, don't turn your back on them until well away, don't shout or scream, and most definitely don't run. Make moderate noises, back away slowly, and look down while doing so and you will almost certainly be fine.

As has been said, make a little noise while you're out and about and you'll be fine.


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Mar 03, 2014 10:09 |  #8

PhotosGuy wrote in post #16731196 (external link)
You're probably safe from a cougar if you're in a group, but you should read this: http://www.cougarinfo.​org/attacks3.htm (external link)

Some people recommend wearing bells to notify bears that they're in the area & giving them a chance to avoid you. There's an old joke... "You can tell the difference between cougar scat & bear poop. Bear poop has little bells in it!" ; D

Be careful, & have fun!

Thanks for the link , I'll get right into that , Bells huh?.. thats intresting appreciate you posting . :) cheers

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For several years this was one of my neighbors. We all got along just fine.

As has been said, make a little noise while you're out and about and you'll be fine.


Gulp! :D Many thanks.


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Mar 03, 2014 10:34 |  #9

Hello, James.

Based on many years experience in bear and big cat territories I believe the biggest threat you will face is to your budget. If you are fortunate enough to see a cougar it will almost certainly be at a distance only bridged by an expensive telephoto.

Best wishes for a fine visit.


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Mar 03, 2014 10:51 |  #10

AZGeorge wrote in post #16731290 (external link)
Hello, James.

Based on many years experience in bear and big cat territories I believe the biggest threat you will face is to your budget. If you are fortunate enough to see a cougar it will almost certainly be at a distance only bridged by an expensive telephoto.

Best wishes for a fine visit.

Many thanks for the calming post :D

Wait.. Arizona... next to Nevada?.. Im also heading to Las Vegas on the same trip, what have I got to look out for there?

I dont know how anyone copes outside Europe! Everything wants to kill you.


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Mar 03, 2014 10:53 |  #11

You are not going to have any problems whatsoever with either of these species. Guaranteed. Don't even think about it anymore. Don't waste time learning about bear attacks or how to avoid cougars. Just stop it. Instead, spend your time reading books about scenic landscape photography - that's what your trip is about, so prepare for it.


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Mar 03, 2014 11:05 |  #12

If you are really concerned for your safety while out and about in the wild you could hire a certified/registered guide. A good guide will be able to keep you as safe as possible while increasing your chances of seeing some of the local wildlife.

I suspect that you will be vising popular "tourist" areas in which people visit at high rates which allows the animals to acclimate/avoid the human presence. I think you should only be lightly concerned if you're planning on heading off in to the areas of the deep woods where very few, if any one at all, ever go.




  
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Mar 03, 2014 11:06 |  #13

*Jayrou wrote in post #16731323 (external link)
Many thanks for the calming post :D

Wait.. Arizona... next to Nevada?.. Im also heading to Las Vegas on the same trip, what have I got to look out for there?

I dont know how anyone copes outside Europe! Everything wants to kill you.

Arizona and Nevada are snake country.:wink:

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Mar 03, 2014 12:43 |  #14

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Oh yeah! Lots and lots of those! Don't pick up rocks and don't put your hands into holes. You never know what under them or in them. Especially in the heat of the day.




  
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Mar 03, 2014 12:50 |  #15

July, that's the time of the year where you have millions of retired rich people in their noisy, slow, rented rv's in the area, scaring the **** out of every wild animal so they stay miles away.
If you go in the backcountry, you might see some wildlife if you're lucky. If you stay around Canmore or the other towns in/near the national parks, no way you will see anything dangerous. If any, it's probably moose you should me most worried about btw.


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