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Do you think Canon will respond to the Nikon D800?

 
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Mar 06, 2014 19:37 |  #151

gjl711 wrote in post #16739871 (external link)
Hmm.. I wonder if you meant to type that. You sort of just admitted that Nikon is way better than Canon as their consumer grade cameras are just fine for NASA. ;):)
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No - I was talking about if asked for a custom-adapted camera then all the current manufacturers would manage to deliver a way more advanced camera than they have in their current lineup.


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Mar 06, 2014 19:44 |  #152

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No - I was talking about if asked for a custom-adapted camera then all the current manufacturers would manage to deliver a way more advanced camera than they have in their current lineup.

I know and Nikon does deliver custom cameras, but they also use many which are consumer grade cameras.

These cameras, used inside the International Space Station, are largely consumer-grade—they do not need to be modified.

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Mar 06, 2014 20:04 |  #153

pwm2 wrote in post #16740025 (external link)
No - I was talking about if asked for a custom-adapted camera then all the current manufacturers would manage to deliver a way more advanced camera than they have in their current lineup.

Actually Nikon delivered an F4 (film body) modified with a digital back to NASA for use in space almost 25 years ago.


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Mar 06, 2014 20:21 |  #154

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Actually Nikon delivered an F4 (film body) modified with a digital back to NASA for use in space almost 25 years ago.

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Also Digital camera back here: http://en.wikipedia.or​g/wiki/Digital_camera_​back (external link)


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Mar 07, 2014 13:32 |  #155

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I think you'll find that most of the contingent who harps on DR, myself included, are disappointed former Canon shooters. I'm not just a Nikon troll who signed up here to get my jollies laughing at the other side. I bought a 6D last year and gradually realized I wouldn't be happy with the investment for years to come, so I had to switch. Switching was a tedious process, and I was genuinely dismayed because there are many things I like better about Canon. Their ergonomics are better, their customer service and treatment of customers has been better in recent years, and their lens selection is just a bit better and more diverse on the whole. I complain because I wish Canon had a sensor in the same low ISO ballpark as its competitors; I'd quite possibly switch back if they did. (The A7/A7r with an adapter is a good substitute for now, and honestly an excellent one for pure landscapers, but I found it easier just to go with Nikon for my particular use case).

If you really want to get into motivations, perhaps it's that we wish more Canon users would rise up and demand change (to be overdramatic about it) so that we could put this all behind us.

Thank you. :)




  
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Mar 07, 2014 15:06 |  #156

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Like I've stated before, part of the quandary lies in the fact that Canon developed two spectacular TS-E lenses perfectly suited for architecture and "scapes". So, to your point, you have to pick a system. All things considered I prefer the Canon system in large part on account of those excellent TS-E lenses. :)

If Nikon had those two equivalent lenses in their line up it would be buh-bye. :)




  
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Mar 07, 2014 15:11 |  #157

kin2son wrote in post #16737888 (external link)
Don't give credit to Nikon where credit isn't due :p

Nikon can't and doesn't make sensor, they are just re-badging Sony's, they are almost as sad as Pentax. :D

I urge you to try the 1Ds 3 which I still own. I use it for small jobs for clients that don't need a ton of MPs. I wish Canon made sensors like that again since it excelled at low ISO.




  
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Mar 07, 2014 15:14 |  #158

kin2son wrote in post #16738306 (external link)
That's a terrible setup for airshow.

I've seen the D800/E used for birding. It's capable even though it's not a fps machine.




  
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Mar 07, 2014 15:18 |  #159

jonneymendoza wrote in post #16739017 (external link)
Is there a smaller sony camera that has a d800 sensor in that i can use my canon lenses on?

Sony A7/R. It's an excellent alternative. :) Plus, try out Sony's 55 1.8. It's excellent! :)




  
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Mar 07, 2014 15:22 |  #160

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I have no real knowledge of the processing chips or AF systems used in DSLRs, but I've always suspected that those are the areas where Canikon are really gouging us. Specifically, are we really to believe that the tech enabling the 5D3's AF and FPS was unavailable -- or even far more expensive -- back when the 5D2 was released? Maybe someone who actually knows can chime in. I wouldn't be surprised to learn there's a long pipeline of this stuff being held back from market, just to keep the upgrade cycle moving effortlessly without progressing sensor tech, which is more difficult and requires time.

I'm probably biased because I don't care about AF or framerates, but still. From my point of view where they're just a nuisance that steal marketability from advances I actually care about, I'm suspicious that Canikon could give you sports/action shooters exactly what you want at a low price point right this minute.

One example is the ability to AF at f8. Canon did not have this feature in their 1D X but, the Nikons did. It was a big deal for bird/wildlife shooters. It took them more than a year to release but, it is limited to certain lenses and certain t-con combos.




  
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Mar 07, 2014 15:51 |  #161

kin2son wrote in post #16738306 (external link)
That's a terrible setup for airshow.

Care to answer this? Genuinely interested. :)


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Mar 07, 2014 16:16 |  #162

jdizzle wrote in post #16741778 (external link)
If Nikon had those two equivalent lenses in their line up it would be buh-bye. :)

Yup! :D


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Mar 07, 2014 17:09 |  #163

Radders wrote in post #16741859 (external link)
Care to answer this? Genuinely interested. :)

If this guy can shoot BIF with the D800, you can certainly shoot planes. :)

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Mar 07, 2014 17:41 |  #164

jdizzle wrote in post #16741790 (external link)
I urge you to try the 1Ds 3 which I still own. I use it for small jobs for clients that don't need a ton of MPs. I wish Canon made sensors like that again since it excelled at low ISO.

The 1ds miii is still a favorite of mine and agree whole heartedly at the low iso comment. That viewfinder is by far the best of any camera body I've owned to date.


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Mar 08, 2014 03:48 |  #165

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The 1ds miii is still a favorite of mine and agree whole heartedly at the low iso comment. That viewfinder is by far the best of any camera body I've owned to date.

Canon were crazy to discontinue the 1Ds line. It would be my camera of choice.


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