Selling Images, Size Question

10x12" is a weird size. Borders, otherwise tell them no unless they're paying four figures.

Thanks for the feedback everyone, really appreciate it.

tim wrote in post #16737571
10x12" is a weird size. Borders, otherwise tell them no unless they're paying four figures.

It is actually quite common and an easy size to get hold of from many suppliers.

The frame below is a 12 x 10 matted to 10 x 8 as supplied by Asda (Wal-Mart)

http://direct.asda.com …001739376,defau​lt,pd.html

Nightstalker wrote in post #16738050
It is actually quite common and an easy size to get hold of from many suppliers.

The frame below is a 12 x 10 matted to 10 x 8 as supplied by Asda (Wal-Mart)

http://direct.asda.com …001739376,defau​lt,pd.html

We're discussing the image size, not the frame size. 10x12 is unusual for an image size.

moose10101 wrote in post #16738570
We're discussing the image size, not the frame size. 10x12 is unusual for an image size.

I said in my first post on this thread that the size will have been requested as that is the frame size that they want to put it into and in the above post showed why this is likely and that the size is not particularly strange. 12x10 is also a standard print size offered by the lab I use along with 14x11 and plenty of others. With the variety of image / frame sizes currently available you have no idea what a customer will request.

Anyhow what does it matter if it is a strange crop - if the OP had shot loose enough it should have been possible to cone up with an acceptable composition. The OP has declined to post the image on the forum so this is obviously speculation.

Personally I rarely sell prints but when I do and I'm asked for something that I think won't work I'll have the discussion with the customer and show them some alternatives and work it out with them - in reality the opinions of faceless people on forums are, quite frankly, worthless in such a situation (and yes I do include my own comments in this).

It's not that I declined to share the image, I asked a question and never got an answer, and within that time I was able to sell them at the sizes I suggested would work best.

ShutterAttack wrote in post #16736761
You all want the original image? Or a comparison of the 8x12 to the 10x12? I did offer a 10x15 earlier so maybe they got mixed up and meant 10x15.

Nightstalker wrote in post #16738866
when I do and I'm asked for something that I think won't work I'll have the discussion with the customer and show them some alternatives and work it out with them

Well, obviously this is the best answer.

I'm assuming that the customer doesn't really know what they want, they just threw out some numbers that sounded about right. "Hmm, I think I want something a little bigger than 8x10? how about 10x12, that sounds about right, that's what I'll ask for."

You're assuming that the customer knows exactly what size they want, and has a good reason for wanting that size - that is, they already bought the frame.

Without discussing with the potential customer, we'll never know

If it were me, I would only do a print that makes the image work. Then I would get a low priced but nice frame with a mat and show it to them. If it is something that they like they will purchase the print.

ShutterAttack wrote in post #16738888
It's not that I declined to share the image, I asked a question and never got an answer, and within that time I was able to sell them at the sizes I suggested would work best.

Fair enough - I wasn't having a go, I really just meant that I was making some assumptions as to shooting loose as you hadn't posted the image (I had asked twice I think).

The reason why I wanted to see the image was to have a look at the effect that different crops would make as it is sometimes easier for a 3rd party to be objective as to what could work they are not invested in the image in any way.

Anyhow, you got the desired result so that's a win.

Tell the customer the photo will look different with a different crop and get them to go with the 8x12.

or

Adopt the snobby artist attitude and tell them you only do 8x12 and anything else is crap and anyone that wants crap is stupid. And double your price on the spot for the 8x12.

Probably neither will work, but the second one could be more fun.

Nightstalker wrote in post #16739218
Fair enough - I wasn't having a go, I really just meant that I was making some assumptions as to shooting loose as you hadn't posted the image (I had asked twice I think).

The reason why I wanted to see the image was to have a look at the effect that different crops would make as it is sometimes easier for a 3rd party to be objective as to what could work they are not invested in the image in any way.

Anyhow, you got the desired result so that's a win.

Haha didn't mean to sound hostile, just wasn't sure what you wanted exactly. Here's a link to a 1024x683 of the one image (don't want to post the full resolution).

http://farm4.staticfli​ckr.com …38581535_401b4f​0cf5_b.jpg

Thanks for that.

I've had a play with it and personally I see nothing wrong with a 12 x 10 crop in that it doesn't crop anything from the part of the image that I am interrested in.

Personally I prefer this image cropped as a 3x1 panoramic as, to me, the large expance of woodland and water above and below the deer add nothing to the image and only serve to distract me and dilute from the main subject of the image.

It just shows that everyone has different ideas and likes different things.

I think the buyer was big on it because they were there, and wanted to have it as a memory in a sense of having the deer cross over the river. Maybe, maybe not.