Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Photo Sharing & Discussion Kids & Family 
Thread started 06 Mar 2014 (Thursday) 12:04
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

Difficult newborn shoot

 
JoseCanseco
Senior Member
Avatar
689 posts
Gallery: 11 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 151
Joined Dec 2012
Location: ON, Canada
     
Mar 06, 2014 12:04 |  #1

This was my 2nd time doing a newborn shoot, and although the model was being a fussy crankypants, it was a fun afternoon. He was 8 days old and despite feeding a few times during the shoot, he just wouldn't settle. We'd get him into what we thought was a comfortable pose, hold him there until he seemed relaxed, but then as soon as we moved, he would stretch out, open his eyes and start fussing. So I definitely need to work on my posing abilities.

What do you folks do when the baby is getting really fussy and mom is saying "Maybe we should just call it a day"? Do you keep taking breaks to let the baby calm down and settle, or is there a point where you just know it's not going to happen?

As far as lighting goes, mom didn't want to take baby out of the house, so we shot in the little nursery. Natural lighting was ok, but there wasn't any room for light stands or modifiers.

So overall it was a difficult shoot and I learned a lot, but mom is still very pleased with the results (I'm sure anyone with a photog's eye can see areas of improvement). His skin was blotchy and was flaking a lot, so I used the frequency separation technique to smooth things out in PS. I've never used that technique before, but I liked it, though I do need some more practice at it.

PS - this was a free shoot for a friend, I'm not sure if I'm at the 'saleable' level just yet.

C&C is definitely welcome!

This first shot is the best expression we got out of him, but I think focus might be off a bit, and his arm is flailing around.

IMAGE: http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2894/12893054134_a06f700f10_c.jpg
IMAGE LINK: http://www.flickr.com …76068277@N04/12​893054134/  (external link)
Newborn Feb14-2 (external link) by joecubed (external link), on Flickr

IMAGE: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7346/12892636575_2c0bb008db_c.jpg
IMAGE LINK: http://www.flickr.com …76068277@N04/12​892636575/  (external link)
Newborn Feb14-1 (external link) by joecubed (external link), on Flickr

IMAGE: http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3708/12892615215_fd6263b89f_c.jpg
IMAGE LINK: http://www.flickr.com …76068277@N04/12​892615215/  (external link)
Newborn Feb14-5 (external link) by joecubed (external link), on Flickr

My name is Jeff, not actually Jose Canseco.
Website (external link) Facebook (external link) Flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
kacebelle
Senior Member
Avatar
305 posts
Likes: 4
Joined Mar 2013
Location: Cowtown, TX
     
Mar 06, 2014 12:09 |  #2

From my limited newborn experience, he looks cold. Was the room warm? If you're shooting at the parents' home, always take at least one space heater (if you weren't sweating quite a bit, it was too cold for baby) and a heating pad to keep the space warm - but remove it just before laying baby down. And swaddle. Newborns love to be wrapped up tight.


My Stuff | My flickr (external link) |My Website (external link)| My Blog (external link) | My Feedback

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
David547
Member
31 posts
Joined Sep 2013
Location: Amsterdam , Netherlands
     
Mar 07, 2014 06:23 |  #3

Great work ! these are really fantastic photographs .Newborn photography can come with many surprises, especially if you aren’t a parent.


Microstock photographs (external link) | microstock photo website (external link) | Microstock photographs Blog (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
JoseCanseco
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
Avatar
689 posts
Gallery: 11 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 151
Joined Dec 2012
Location: ON, Canada
     
Mar 07, 2014 09:42 |  #4

kacebelle wrote in post #16738984 (external link)
From my limited newborn experience, he looks cold. Was the room warm? If you're shooting at the parents' home, always take at least one space heater (if you weren't sweating quite a bit, it was too cold for baby) and a heating pad to keep the space warm - but remove it just before laying baby down. And swaddle. Newborns love to be wrapped up tight.

Thanks for the help! We actually did have a space heater and heating pad, I was sweating like crazy in that little room. Maybe we could have done more to keep him warm, can't think of another reason why he'd be so fussy.

David547 wrote in post #16740711 (external link)
Great work ! these are really fantastic photographs .Newborn photography can come with many surprises, especially if you aren’t a parent.

Thank you! I couldn't imagine doing this kind of photography as a non-parent. Actually I never thought of any kind of photography until my daughter was born a year ago. I bought my first camera a month before her birth. Never had a desire to capture moments until she came around. :)


My name is Jeff, not actually Jose Canseco.
Website (external link) Facebook (external link) Flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
FarmerTed1971
fondling the 5D4
Avatar
7,352 posts
Gallery: 66 photos
Best ofs: 2
Likes: 5912
Joined Sep 2013
Location: Portland, OR
     
Mar 07, 2014 09:57 |  #5

Number two is excellent!


Getting better at this - Fuji X-t5 & X-t3 - 16 1.4 - 35/50/90 f2 - 50-140 - flickr (external link) - www.scottaticephoto.co​m (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
toolman21
Goldmember
Avatar
1,027 posts
Gallery: 2 photos
Likes: 7
Joined Jul 2011
Location: Memphis
     
Mar 07, 2014 16:13 |  #6

Really warm room, have some kind of noise generator and another trick I was told is that for really problem children have the mom lie down on the floor drape the blanket/whatever over the mother and use her as the bean bag. They are hard to capture for sure, you have to be ready to snap the instant you hand moves.


Toolman21 - Canon 60d & T1i (sold) - Canon 17-55 | Canon 17-85 | Canon 50mm 1.4 | Sigma 10-20 | Canon 55-250
My Flicker (external link) | Like me on Facebook to follow my He-Man 365 nonsense (external link)| www.heman365.com (external link)https://www.facebook.c​om …n-Digital/34796106523515​2 (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
ShadowTones
Mostly Lurking
13 posts
Joined Dec 2013
Location: Brooklyn, Ny
     
Mar 08, 2014 02:45 |  #7

#2 is superb! If that was the only image momma had of her new boy she'd be ecstatic and pleased with effort.

Frequency separation works well in maintaing natural tone . I like the way you used it here. it invisible!

I haven't shot newborns but at this age I conjecture that they best photos would be of them cuddled as in #2. Cuddled in something ward and fuzzy.


facebook (external link)
500px (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
JoseCanseco
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
Avatar
689 posts
Gallery: 11 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 151
Joined Dec 2012
Location: ON, Canada
     
Mar 10, 2014 20:09 |  #8

FarmerTed1971 wrote in post #16741127 (external link)
Number two is excellent!

ShadowTones wrote in post #16742804 (external link)
#2 is superb! If that was the only image momma had of her new boy she'd be ecstatic and pleased with effort.

Frequency separation works well in maintaing natural tone . I like the way you used it here. it invisible!

I haven't shot newborns but at this age I conjecture that they best photos would be of them cuddled as in #2. Cuddled in something ward and fuzzy.

Thanks guys! I definitely need more practice with the freq separation, but I can see how it's a good technique, especially for baby skin. This one turned out well in B&W, I like the textures in the furry blanket.

toolman21 wrote in post #16741903 (external link)
Really warm room, have some kind of noise generator and another trick I was told is that for really problem children have the mom lie down on the floor drape the blanket/whatever over the mother and use her as the bean bag. They are hard to capture for sure, you have to be ready to snap the instant you hand moves.

We actually tried this as a last resort, we put the furry blanket over mom so she could hold the baby as camouflage. The baby was not having it though, I think he was pretty exhausted by this point and not tolerating my shenanigans any longer.


My name is Jeff, not actually Jose Canseco.
Website (external link) Facebook (external link) Flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
amitchhabra
Hatchling
2 posts
Joined Mar 2014
Location: New Delhi
     
Mar 13, 2014 04:32 |  #9

Nicely clicked....
i understand it becomes difficult to work with newborns...

What i do is... try to create the perfect environment... also the photographs to be taken with no or minimal clothing to get the best out of it...




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Aki78
Senior Member
Avatar
963 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 34
Joined Jun 2006
Location: New Hampshire USA
     
Apr 19, 2014 11:48 |  #10

Love #2 :)

Yes...some babies can be much fussier. But also make sure they are fed and time the shoot so it falls around their nap time; at least with newborn it should be right after their tummy is full and happy. Room I always keep it around 80°F.

And lots of patience for sure. I'd have an assistant if you can...it was a huge help having my wife there the last time.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
mercersmoments
Goldmember
Avatar
1,271 posts
Likes: 20
Joined Jul 2006
Location: Sydney Australia
     
Apr 22, 2014 21:34 |  #11

I find that wrapping fussy babies tight helps, a warm room and some white noise too.


www.seonamercerphotogr​aphy.com (external link)
5DMKIII gripped 5DMKIII gripped
24-70 2.8L. 85 1.2L. 50 1.2L. 100 2.8L Macro. 35 1.4L. 580exII
Facebook - "be a Liker" https://www.facebook.c​om …rtraiture/12471​9434222672 (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
JoseCanseco
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
Avatar
689 posts
Gallery: 11 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 151
Joined Dec 2012
Location: ON, Canada
     
Apr 22, 2014 22:25 |  #12

Thanks so much for the great advice folks! Mom was concerned about leaving the house with baby, so I made a house call for this shoot. I don't think I'll do that again unless I know exactly what to expect.

I agree that the baby was likely cold. Even though I had a space heater going (plus a white noise machine), this was such a cold winter, more heat/blankets/wraps could have been used. Lots of lessons learned here!

I'll be posting shots from my latest newborn shoot soon, this one went a lot smoother and I'm much happier with the images.

Seona, a lot of what I've learned has come from reading your big thread over and over, it's been a great resource. Thanks so much for creating that!


My name is Jeff, not actually Jose Canseco.
Website (external link) Facebook (external link) Flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
mercersmoments
Goldmember
Avatar
1,271 posts
Likes: 20
Joined Jul 2006
Location: Sydney Australia
     
Apr 23, 2014 00:40 |  #13

Also, this might help for setting up, this is how I set my studio up for newborns photographed on a bean bag :

(by the way, thats a doll, not a real baby!)

IMAGE: https://photography-on-the.net/forum/images/hostedphotos_lq/2014/04/4/LQ_683382.jpg
Image hosted by forum (683382) © mercersmoments [SHARE LINK]
THIS IS A LOW QUALITY PREVIEW. Please log in to see the good quality stuff.

www.seonamercerphotogr​aphy.com (external link)
5DMKIII gripped 5DMKIII gripped
24-70 2.8L. 85 1.2L. 50 1.2L. 100 2.8L Macro. 35 1.4L. 580exII
Facebook - "be a Liker" https://www.facebook.c​om …rtraiture/12471​9434222672 (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
JoseCanseco
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
Avatar
689 posts
Gallery: 11 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 151
Joined Dec 2012
Location: ON, Canada
     
Apr 23, 2014 11:17 |  #14

Thanks again Seona! That's similar to my setup at home, hence why I'd rather not do another house call. I've seen the pics of your new studio, it looks beautiful!


My name is Jeff, not actually Jose Canseco.
Website (external link) Facebook (external link) Flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sirquack
Goldmember
Avatar
2,599 posts
Gallery: 66 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 937
Joined Jan 2013
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
     
Apr 23, 2014 12:22 |  #15

Seona, thanks for the setup shots of your studio. It makes a lot more sense when you show it like this. I have a few friends that have given me the chance to take photos of their babies and the backgrounds are always horrible? This gives me some ideas on how to take the backgrounds and get good backgrounds setup.


Name is Ron.
Bodies - 6D/5D3/7D2-Gripped
Lenses - Canon 17-40 F4/24-70 F2.8 II/85 F1.8/Canon 70-200 F2.8 II/F4/Sigma 30 DC/Tamron 150-600
Website (external link)
Flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

6,307 views & 0 likes for this thread, 10 members have posted to it.
Difficult newborn shoot
FORUMS Photo Sharing & Discussion Kids & Family 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is ealarcon
563 guests, 142 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.