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Depth of field as numeric range

 
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Mar 09, 2014 23:53 |  #16

vss4canon wrote in post #16746832 (external link)
It's hard to respond to your post without knowing exactly how this this EXIF information is determined. My point in regard to "range finding" involves using rotational gear position in relation to the know characteristics of any given lens to determine "focus distance". The rotational position of the ultra sonic motors (USM) gears which drive these lens barrels through their focus, together with a first or second order equation should allow one to calculate the focus distance which can in turn be used with the other know variables (f-stop and focal length) to determine "near" and "far" focus limits.

The steps I followed:

  • Take a photo at each measured distance (1' intervals for the Excel table data).
  • Copy photos to harddrive
  • Drag and drop each photo to EXIF viewer
  • Read & record the distance field value within the EXIF data of each photo.


I used two different EXIF viewers, in case one program had a bug in distance values. Canon 17-55mm lens was used for the Excel data. Canon 70-200 f/4L IS was used in the link.

Using a Canon 70-200mm f/4 LIS, distances reported took big jumps, as detailed in the link. At about 190' and farther, the EXIF reported a very huge number that one can only interpret to be 'Infinite'.

Now are you convinced of the sound, scientific method I used to confirm how messed up Canon distance reporting in photo EXIFs really is?!

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Mar 10, 2014 00:12 |  #17

Gobeatty wrote:
And, fwiw, DOF scales calibrated to the current standards don't work, IMHO, with current digital imaging. The lenses and sensors are sharper now than when the standards were developed decades ago so we see a significant change from sharp to blurry sooner than we used to. Thus effective DOF is typically considerably less than the scales would have you believe.

DOF calculation is no different for digital cameras as for film cameras! The real reason for DOF scales and DOF programs getting it wrong all the time is simply due to the fact that both are usually calculated based on the erroneous assumption of 'manufacturer standard' for the viewer's visual acuity, rather than using the tighter standard of 20/20 (US) standard for visual acuity. That is why knowledgeable film camera shooters would use the DOF scale marks on lenses for one f/stop LARGER than the actual shooting aperture (e.g. use DOF scale mark for f/4, when shooting at f/5.6), even 50 years ago!

rrblint wrote in post #16747019 (external link)
Yes, Canon had this mode in select film cameras, it was called "DEP" mode(Not like A-DEP mode that is or was available on digital Rebels). ...I sure wish that they would bring back both of those great features.

Canon had A-DEP as recently in prosumer dSLRs such as 50D (launched 2008), but then stopped.


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