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Mar 09, 2014 06:45 |  #1

Photographer #1 takes engagement photos.

With permission, posts photos on Facebook, tagging client in photos.

Within a week, client cancels wedding photography claiming "they broke up".

Client continues to post on Facebook about how they cannot wait to get married "this weekend" and post photos of the couple together including the day after they "broke up".

Client posts weddings photos on their Facebook less than a week after "breaking up".

Photographer #1 finds out that out of the blue, unknown photographer #2 had contacted couple via Facebook and offered to do their photos for a large discount.

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We do know that at least one other couple has been contacted. Since social media plays such a large part of word of mouth advertising, short of completely stopping posting photos online, what would you do to prevent this from happening in the future? Can you even prevent something like this??




  
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Mar 09, 2014 07:14 |  #2

I'd be happy I didn't shoot their wedding and move on with my life. Also being content that their non refundable deposit money had adequately covered my time.


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Mar 09, 2014 07:27 |  #3

Was there a contract signed? Did Photographer #1 get a deposit for the wedding?


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Mar 09, 2014 08:00 |  #4

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I'd be happy I didn't shoot their wedding and move on with my life. Also being content that their non refundable deposit money had adequately covered my time.

This 100%.:lol:


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Mar 09, 2014 08:12 |  #5

memoriesoftomorrow wrote in post #16745038 (external link)
I'd be happy I didn't shoot their wedding and move on with my life. Also being content that their non refundable deposit money had adequately covered my time.

Indeed. It's always for the best when this stuff happens. You'll find out later why that is exactly.


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Mar 09, 2014 10:09 |  #6

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Indeed. It's always for the best when this stuff happens. You'll find out later why that is exactly.


Exactly!

And when you see the substandard photos from their "discount" photographer on Facebook, you can smile a little too...


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Mar 09, 2014 10:54 |  #7

Yes, contracts are signed and deposits are made so the photogs are getting some money. You can't do much when the bride sends a 2 page email saying how sorry they are but they broke up and there will be no wedding when on Facebook you can clearly see that's a lie. The part that's bad is that these couples are canceling within a week of the wedding and there isn't time to secure another wedding.




  
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Mar 09, 2014 11:05 |  #8

It happens - people can be flakey.

Let's just hope that the cancellation terms were in the photographers favour so close to the wedding.


  
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Mar 09, 2014 11:05 |  #9

the flying moose wrote in post #16745337 (external link)
Yes, contracts are signed and deposits are made so the photogs are getting some money. You can't do much when the bride sends a 2 page email saying how sorry they are but they broke up and there will be no wedding when on Facebook you can clearly see that's a lie. The part that's bad is that these couples are canceling within a week of the wedding and there isn't time to secure another wedding.

That's partially why your deposit is non-refundable (the other part is the time invested in the wedding before you even get close to shooting). Does it suck you won't get full fee for that day? Yes. Is it part of doing business? Yes again.

Consider some of it free money for taking a day off. Book a portrait session. Sleep in. Get your car's oil changed. Edit another client's photos. Whatever. You can still be productive.


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Mar 09, 2014 11:15 |  #10

the flying moose wrote in post #16745337 (external link)
Yes, contracts are signed and deposits are made so the photogs are getting some money. You can't do much when the bride sends a 2 page email saying how sorry they are but they broke up and there will be no wedding when on Facebook you can clearly see that's a lie. The part that's bad is that these couples are canceling within a week of the wedding and there isn't time to secure another wedding.

My final balance is non-refundable and due one month before the wedding date. I'd have a pretty fun Saturday with my family.


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Mar 09, 2014 11:18 |  #11

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My final balance is non-refundable and due one month before the wedding date. I'd have a pretty fun Saturday with my family.

I'm not sure I could do those terms. It's great money for sure but I wouldn't feel right taking the full day's pay without doing the full day's work.


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Mar 09, 2014 11:25 |  #12

Thomas Campbell wrote in post #16745384 (external link)
My final balance is non-refundable and due one month before the wedding date. I'd have a pretty fun Saturday with my family.

That's the way to do it! The customer is reserving a block of time in which the photographer could find other clients to fill. Time is money!


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Mar 09, 2014 11:40 |  #13

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I'm not sure I could do those terms. It's great money for sure but I wouldn't feel right taking the full day's pay without doing the full day's work.

The couple lying to me about breaking up and calling off the wedding would make it much easier.

I've been paid a month in advance for years with no problem. I've also never had a client cancel, though I have had a few that I wish did ;)


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Mar 09, 2014 11:40 |  #14

cdifoto wrote in post #16745391 (external link)
I'm not sure I could do those terms. It's great money for sure but I wouldn't feel right taking the full day's pay without doing the full day's work.

Maybe I turned into a bit of a b!&$% over the years seeing people not value photography, but I wouldn't care and not refund them any money :cool:.


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Mar 09, 2014 11:45 |  #15

Thomas Campbell wrote in post #16745384 (external link)
My final balance is non-refundable and due one month before the wedding date. I'd have a pretty fun Saturday with my family.

This is why I love this forum. I am learning so much. If and when I am able to break into the wedding scene, these little tidbits of wisdom are invaluable.


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