Canon 7D mkII - Desirable Features Poll

We all know that the 7D mkII will be here any minute now!

I put a poll together with all features (that I could think of) that would make this camera a significant upgrade to the current, 5 year old model.
You can make multiple choices with all the features you'd like to see (or need) in the new camera.

I went with everything but 24MP, GPS & 4K video. Everything else would be pretty important for it to be better-enough-than-the-70D to make it worth the anticipated (what is it now, $2,000+?) price.

Adding dual CF cards, a joystick and a magnesium underbody does not translate to $900 better IMHO. However, adding many of the options in your poll would indeed make it worth it to people in the market.

DR is gathering only 50%? Whaaaaaa?

Heya,

If the 7D2 was able to come out with ISO handling comparable, and hopefully slightly better, than the 70D, then I'd be happy. A pro crop with good ISO handling is what I'm really waiting for. Beyond that, just the typical stuff that matters to me: weather sealing that is quite good, not just sorta; MFA is a must; Same robust autofocus and hopefully an improvement or the same (if you get the 5d3 system, expect that kind of price tag, I don't want that price tag, I want this thing at $1500 or less, I know, fat chance); 18~24MP is fine, I honestly don't care about higher MP. Don't really care about super fast FPS.

I guess really, I don't want the 7D2. I probably want the 70D II....

Very best,

+ Swivel LCD screen.

Eye-Controlled Focus Point selection.

The way I see things, which is not necessarily in any way connected to reality, is that Canon owes the world a top-flight crop-sensor body. The 70D is certainly an improvement on the 7D in many areas. The only 7DII that even comes close has lots of the features of a 1Dx: killer AF, built-in grip, dual CF, wifi, GPS, multiple settings for fps (15, 10, 5?) and perhaps a LazyBoy Recliner.

Anything that is an improvement over the 70D will have to be quite substantial in order to attract any buyers at all. Who would pay twice the price of a 70D for 10% better specs? If the specs aren't hugely different, who would buy it at all?

70D is the APSC version of the 5D3. 7DII needs to be the APSC version of the 1Dx. My guess is that Canon has/will abandon the 7D line. Building a super-spec'd APSC body would require Canon to make L-like EFS lenses, especially in the wide, fast prime range. Perhaps an EFS 14mm f/1.2? An f/2 version of the 10-22? An EFS 15-70 f/2.8 IS?

As mentioned, I am only loosely connected to reality. Oh, yeah, and make that all dual-cross 68 point AF system ECF while you are at it.

All wishful thinking.

7D2 will 99.99% get the same sensor as the 70D, touchscreen, WiFi and ~10fps.

AF will be between 19 - 61 points. Canon won't fit the same AF system as the 1DX/5D3, not gonna happen.

Overall nothing new, it's just gonna be another disappointment as far as I can see. Nothing worth waiting for imo.

kin2son wrote in post #16757441
All wishful thinking.

7D2 will 99.99% get the same sensor as the 70D, touchscreen, WiFi and ~10fps.

AF will be between 19 - 61 points. Canon won't fit the same AF system as the 1DX/5D3, not gonna happen.

Overall nothing new, it's just gonna be another disappointment as far as I can see. Nothing worth waiting for imo.

Why so negative?
Did Canon kick your dog?

SqueekyBoy wrote in post #16757403
The way I see things, which is not necessarily in any way connected to reality, is that Canon owes the world a top-flight crop-sensor body. The 70D is certainly an improvement on the 7D in many areas. The only 7DII that even comes close has lots of the features of a 1Dx: killer AF, built-in grip, dual CF, wifi, GPS, multiple settings for fps (15, 10, 5?) and perhaps a LazyBoy Recliner.

Anything that is an improvement over the 70D will have to be quite substantial in order to attract any buyers at all. Who would pay twice the price of a 70D for 10% better specs? If the specs aren't hugely different, who would buy it at all?

70D is the APSC version of the 5D3. 7DII needs to be the APSC version of the 1Dx. My guess is that Canon has/will abandon the 7D line. Building a super-spec'd APSC body would require Canon to make L-like EFS lenses, especially in the wide, fast prime range. Perhaps an EFS 14mm f/1.2? An f/2 version of the 10-22? An EFS 15-70 f/2.8 IS?

As mentioned, I am only loosely connected to reality. Oh, yeah, and make that all dual-cross 68 point AF system ECF while you are at it.

I think you've hit the nail on the head there. By making the 70D IQ better than the 7D ( and quite right too as the 7D is long in the tooth ) Canon has shot its own fox. They haven't the technology to vastly improve on that tech, and if they did who would by the 5D3 ? ? ? That squeezes the '7D2' into a hole which leave very little wiggle room. Sure, 10fps better AF etc will be tempting to some, but I wouldn't upgrade for 2 extra fps as 8 is plenty already, and the AF limits me in no way whatsoever.
All they will be able to offer is the likes of touchscreen, wi-fi, swivel screen, GPS. Nice for some, essential for hardly any and tempting for all but the very few of existing 7D owners. Hardly an upgrade.
All this coupled with the long time people have been waiting leads me to believe it will never appear

What about 70d becomes the top crop sensor camera and the 7d is dropped from the line up?

The beauty of the timing is that Canon hasn't released a significant camera in over 2 years (5D mkIII) and there is enough time between the models for a ground breaking camera that will set the world on fire.

So, by releasing the 7D mkII with a significantly upgraded sensor (i.e. 180nm process with far lower low ISO noise and higher DR) no 5D mkIII should feel offended

andrikos wrote in post #16757467
Why so negative?
Did Canon kick your dog?

I wasn't being negative but realistic.

andrikos wrote in post #16757487
So, by releasing the 7D mkII with a significantly upgraded sensor (i.e. 180nm process with far lower low ISO noise and higher DR) no 5D mkIII should feel offended

LOL dream on.

Even the Sony 24mp crop sensor can't beat ff in high ISO performance, you honestly think Canon has the tech to produce a better DR, more MP AND a lower noise performing sensor than Sony?

Not a chance in a million years.

Consider lucky if Canon can match the Sony sensor (I don't see they will put a new sensor anyway).

Even if they can they won't release it, as that will heavily sabotage their ff line.

Or if something like this ever get released Canon will charge no less than a 5D3, maybe more.

Moreover why should I wait when I can get the a6000 kit next month for $750 that ticks more than half of your list?

As I said you are being very negative.

You have no idea what Canon R&D is up to.
Absolutely none.
Unless, that is, you are a member of that very specific team. Are you?

And you're putting words in my mouth.
Where did I say APS-C HI ISO will best that of FF?
Please, if you're gonna make stuff up, use your own words. Not mine.