Canon 7D mkII - Desirable Features Poll

I do sports photography and don't have the budget for a 1Dx and a 300mm f2.8

To me the important items are the 14 Stops DR, the 10FPS, Autofocus improvements and the dual pixel. I'd also want ISO that goes to a marginally usable 51,200 (by that I mean comparable to the 6400 on todays 7D) Shooting High School sports there are often times where it is impossible to take images in the endzone for example simply because I can't even get the shutter speeds up to 1/640. WiFi, GPS and touch really aren't much use to me (touch mainly because there are many times I have gloves on)

I would also rather have the APS-C sensor rather than the H. Reasoning here is that I get a bit more reach out of my 70 - 200mm lens.

Stubbienz wrote in post #16757485
What about 70d becomes the top crop sensor camera and the 7d is dropped from the line up?

why would Canon drop their top of the line Crop sensor camera. If anything, improve on it. Many sidelines are still filled with the workhorse 7D in conjunction with the 1Dx. With less Mark IV's every year, having a well built, high frame rate, dependable camera is a must. Why get rid of a good thing?

Heya,

I keep wondering why Canon hasn't produced a consumer grade weather resistant camera. I know the 7D has some weather resistance, but not a lot. Nothing like the top tier. They make lenses that are affordable with weather sealing, and 3rd party lenses can be had with weather sealing. But they're not going to do much with a camera that isn't weather sealed. I've always wondered why these "top" cameras in the sense of cameras, are so completely exposed. It doesn't have to be straight water proof. But being able to be exposed to some rain, splashes, etc, would be a nice peace of mind.

The more I think of the 7D2, the more I think of these features as being critical to me, in order to secure me as a buyer:

1 - Superior ISO performance. Definitely want to see ISO 3200/6400 as a usable ISO range and not just the top of the range and really messy looking. On the same sensor right now as the 7D, I find ISO 800 to be my threshold where I don't feel like I'm looking at a mess. Getting 3 more stops of ISO for a similar quality of image would be a big deal to me. Big gains in ISO performance is the future since that's one aspect of all these cameras that has really just been lagging behind tremendously. 1 stop at a time it seems, every, what, 10 years? Bleh.

2 - Weather sealing. A pro "action" camera needs real weather sealing, not just sorta-kinda, and should match the weather sealed lenses and TC's that are often coupled with it. I would pay more, knowing I can take a splash and simply need to wash it under clean water and air dry later. Huge peace of mind, I'd pay for. I don't want to submerge it. But I want to know I can kayak with it, and not need a stupid bulky bag or ultra expensive waterproof case. Would love to go to the beach and out in the rain, and not fear it being a brick at the end of the day.

3 - Wifi/MFA. Wifi really is a nice feature. When you have it and then don't have it, you notice it. Being able to quickly peak at your photos to ensure you have something usable before you walk away to the next shoot can save you headaches. It's also nice as a way to quickly show a client, or simply yourself/friends/famil​y a photo before you move on to something. MFA goes without saying, every single dSLR should have this feature. It's ridiculous that many lack it. Obviously the 7D has it, and the 7D2 will absolutely have to have it.

The rest, like the robust AF system, dual pixel AF, higher MegaPixel, etc, are all just gravy.

I'd take a lesser camear that has a crop sensor, if it had those 3 (mainly the first 2) criteria above.

Very best,

Why leave High ISO performance off the list? As someone else mentioned, having good high ISO would probably be my top thing. Improving that "already great" AF system would be second on my list. Making the AF-ON button easier to reach, since my short thumb has trouble reaching it in the recessed place it is located (does anyone else have trouble with that?).

guntoter wrote in post #16757837
Why leave High ISO performance off the list? As someone else mentioned, having good high ISO would probably be my top thing.

The reason I left it off because it's a given that it'll be better than the previous version.
Every single camera upgrade came with better ISO performance.
Until a few years ago, it also came with more pixels but that stopped at 18-20MP.
Same with AF. AF improves with upgraded models but not always and definitely not significantly.

So, consider the high ISO improvement as a given.

Tim_Arrick wrote in post #16757751
ISO that goes to a marginally usable 51,200 (by that I mean comparable to the 6400 on todays 7D

HAHAHAHA

andrikos wrote in post #16757933
The reason I left it off because it's a given that it'll be better than the previous version.
Every single camera upgrade came with better ISO performance.
Until a few years ago, it also came with more pixels but that stopped at 18-20MP.
Same with AF. AF improves with upgraded models but not always and definitely not significantly.

So, consider the high ISO improvement as a given.

every one knows that 7DII (if ever released) will be a APS-C monster, which means, it is a given, that it will have better

- FPS
- AF
- video functions
- ISO
- etc

so by that, your poll is meaningless. but you asked what people desire in the new 7D. and people desire better high ISO as well, not just faster FPS, more MP, better AF and so on.

Thanks for your valuable input. Please come back and vote again.

The want list sure will drive the price up to the 5D3, canon will not do that and effect the sales of their 5D3 FF line in my view.

I'd be happy with,

Wifi,
24+MP,
50 AF Points,

LCD Tilt screen is also a great idea, I love that on my 60D.

Dual cards, Dual AF pixels are an added bonus.

I'd like to just see it come out, before I spend my camera fund money on something else.

I would certainly hope it will be able to AF at f8. The previous generation 1D mk II and III camera's had a 45 point AF system that I think would be more than enough on the new 7D mk II. Wouldn't mind seeing at least 1 stop better ISO performance either.

kin2son wrote in post #16757441
All wishful thinking.

7D2 will 99.99% get the same sensor as the 70D, touchscreen, WiFi and ~10fps.

AF will be between 19 - 61 points. Canon won't fit the same AF system as the 1DX/5D3, not gonna happen.

Overall nothing new, it's just gonna be another disappointment as far as I can see. Nothing worth waiting for imo.

thats the canon way

Radders wrote in post #16762639
I'd be happy with,


50 AF Points,
.

I want at least 75 AF points

My priority

1) Better high ISO performance
2) Strong built quality and Weather Sealing
3) Better DR
4) Better focusing system (50AF points would be a dream)
5) Better video performance - Dual Pixel AF, 1080p 60f/s etc....

Other improvements would also be welcomed, but these are the things I would want the most.