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Trade in old SLR

 
viperbass
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Mar 14, 2014 11:31 |  #1

I have a Canon Élan II without the eye focus 35mm camera. I have not used it in about 4 years. Have moved to 100% digital cameras (G9 and 60D).

I am thinking about selling it to one of the camera houses who buy used equipment.

Any guesses on what that camera would bring?
Also, what's a good resale place?

Thanks.




  
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Mar 14, 2014 11:37 |  #2

worth about 40 retail. check KEH.com

a camera shop won't give you retail for it. you might get 10 bucks. you would be better off selling on ebay.


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Mar 14, 2014 12:09 |  #3

try selling it here first. some folks still like film and this IS a Canon forum by designation.




  
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Mar 14, 2014 19:34 |  #4

You could have traded it in with the Canon Loyalty Program for a discounted refurbished Canon camera.




  
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Mar 16, 2014 10:57 as a reply to  @ HappySnapper90's post |  #5

Just keep it. You won't get anything worth while for it. Someday you might want to shot a roll of film. That's why mine is still in the closet.


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Mar 16, 2014 12:00 |  #6

KEH and other used dealers will only pay about 50-60% of retail, and Ebay and similar aren't worth the hassle. I'd keep it... someday you will want to shoot some film.


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Mar 17, 2014 23:59 |  #7

pmed


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Mar 18, 2014 00:11 |  #8

Buy some film for it, then you'll have a full frame camera.


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Mar 18, 2014 01:30 |  #9

You'd be lucky to net $25 selling it yourself.


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Mar 18, 2014 06:56 |  #10

Eagle wrote in post #16762412 (external link)
Just keep it. You won't get anything worth while for it.....

Yep.... I had a pretty decent Nikon film camera and was lucky enough to sell it before the price fell all the way. Anymore that camera sells on ebay for $30 or so. If I still had it I'd just find some way to display it at home as a tribute to the way things used to be (and maybe use it from time to time to remind myself how good we have it now).




  
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Mar 18, 2014 07:36 |  #11

groundloop wrote in post #16766957 (external link)
Yep.... I had a pretty decent Nikon film camera and was lucky enough to sell it before the price fell all the way. Anymore that camera sells on ebay for $30 or so. If I still had it I'd just find some way to display it at home as a tribute to the way things used to be (and maybe use it from time to time to remind myself how good we have it now).

"...how good we have it now."

Yep, now that we can get full frame cameras with 18 stops of dynamic range and unparalleled skin tones (colour) and rich, deep blacks (B&W) for $30.


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Mar 18, 2014 08:36 |  #12

I'd just keep it and put it on a shelf. You'd practically have to give it away anyway.




  
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Mar 18, 2014 08:49 |  #13

mark48 wrote in post #16767177 (external link)
I'd just keep it and put it on a shelf. You'd practically have to give it away anyway.

Why not put some film in it and use it? I have cameras on my shelf, too, but they either don't work or I can no longer buy film for them. But if I had a functional camera, it wouldn't be sitting on a shelf.


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Mar 18, 2014 10:24 |  #14

edge100 wrote in post #16767031 (external link)
"...how good we have it now."

Yep, now that we can get full frame cameras with 18 stops of dynamic range and unparalleled skin tones (colour) and rich, deep blacks (B&W) for $30.


Run a thousand or so rolls of film through that $30 camera and see what the total cost is. :cool:




  
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Mar 18, 2014 10:47 |  #15

groundloop wrote in post #16767453 (external link)
Run a thousand or so rolls of film through that $30 camera and see what the total cost is. :cool:

That's a fair point, and it's one of the reasons why I don't shoot 35mm film SLRs (the other being that I dislike SLR cameras).

That having been said, the math is not as much in the DSLR's favour as you think. Do you have any idea how long it would take to shoot a thousand rolls of film (that's 36,000 exposures)? So far this year, I've shot 20 rolls of 35mm film (plus some 120, but let's ignore the far-superior 120 format for the purposes of this discussion); 20 x 35mm = 720 frames in 12 weeks, or 60 frames/week (and I shoot exclusively film, remember).

So at 60 frames/week, it would take me 600 weeks to shoot 36,000 frames. That's 11 and a half years. And how much did those 1000 rolls of film cost me?

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …k_GC_135_36_Gol​d_Max.html (external link) ($2.49 per roll, for a total of $2490 for 1000 rolls)

You'll need a scanner:

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …film_8200ise_sc​anner.html (external link) ($329)

And you'll need to develop the film:

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …6_C_41_Press_Ki​t_for.html (external link) (this kit will do ~30 rolls, despite what the manufacturer says...$23.50 per kit, for a total of ~$790 for enough to do 1000 rolls).

So:

Camera - $30
Film - $2490
Scanner - $329
Chemicals - $790

TOTAL = $3639

And for that, I get 11 years of 60 frames/week shooting. Some weeks I shoot 120 frames, while some weeks I shoot 0 frames. Will a 5DIII or D800E still be working in 11 years?

If you shoot a rangefinder camera (as I do), the math is far more in film's favour, since the cost of digital rangefinders is enormously high, even relative to the best film rangefinders (a new Leica M240, for example, costs 2.5x the price of my Leica MP, which itself is the best film rangefinder you can buy).

This is not intended to be a comprehensive argument for the use of film, but merely to point out that the economics of shooting film are not nearly as bad as many people think. One simply doesn't shoot film in the same way as one shoots digital. And before you say it, there are both pros and cons to this.


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