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Thinking about ditching the Canon 24-105 f/4 for the Tamron 24-70 f/2.8

 
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Mar 17, 2014 18:00 |  #1

So I shot yet another engagement session yesterday and, although I absolutely love the 6D's high ISO capabilities and know it can handle it, I find myself want 2.8 more and more. f4 just doesn't feel wide open enough in a lot of situations. Not only that, but I was getting a lot of soft photos with my Canon 50mm 1.4 even stopped down and feel it could also take the place of this lens in quite a few situations.

Anyway, enough ranting. I'm wanting to find out if anyone has experience with both and would love to hear pros and cons of the Tamron, especially focusing and IQ. I've read and watched reviews and really find very few faults with it but would still love some first-hand experience, especially from those that shoot portraits, engagements and weddings. The only thing I'll occasionally miss is the 71-105 focal range. I don't have a tele but do use my 85mm quite a bit and it works great. And no, I can't afford both at the moment.


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Mar 17, 2014 18:10 |  #2

dandingo wrote in post #16765719 (external link)
So I shot yet another engagement session yesterday and, although I absolutely love the 6D's high ISO capabilities and know it can handle it, I find myself want 2.8 more and more. f4 just doesn't feel wide open enough in a lot of situations. Not only that, but I was getting a lot of soft photos with my Canon 50mm 1.4 even stopped down and feel it could also take the place of this lens in quite a few situations.

Anyway, enough ranting. I'm wanting to find out if anyone has experience with both and would love to hear pros and cons of the Tamron, especially focusing and IQ. I've read and watched reviews and really find very few faults with it but would still love some first-hand experience, especially from those that shoot portraits, engagements and weddings. The only thing I'll occasionally miss is the 71-105 focal range. I don't have a tele but do use my 85mm quite a bit and it works great. And no, I can't afford both at the moment.

I can't help you make a decision on the Tamron, but I can propose a different alternative... What about getting a good prime like the Canon 35L or Sigma Art? These are the ideal lenses for environmental portraits (which it sounds like you may be doing).

My problem with f/2.8 is that the DOF is not shallow enough when I want that effect and not deep enough when I don't (particularly at the wide end). f/2.8 will probably do what you want at 70mm, but not at 35. If you really want good subject isolation, you need f/2-f/1.4 which is why I suggest a fast prime in addition to your 24-105. It works amazingly well for my kind of shooting - maybe it will do the same for you?


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Mar 17, 2014 18:32 |  #3

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I can't help you make a decision on the Tamron, but I can propose a different alternative... What about getting a good prime like the Canon 35L or Sigma Art? These are the ideal lenses for environmental portraits (which it sounds like you may be doing).

My problem with f/2.8 is that the DOF is not shallow enough when I want that effect and not deep enough when I don't (particularly at the wide end). f/2.8 will probably do what you want at 70mm, but not at 35. If you really want good subject isolation, you need f/2-f/1.4 which is why I suggest a fast prime in addition to your 24-105. It works amazingly well for my kind of shooting - maybe it will do the same for you?

Like I'd said, I have both an 85mm 1.8 and a 50mm 1.4. I'm looking to replace my standard zoom with another, as I love the versatility of the 24-105, just not the aperture.


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Mar 17, 2014 18:36 |  #4

Dandingo,

I've shot with both and I think honestly that the Tamron was a little sharper personally. Other than missing the red ring (if you are that kind of guy) its pretty much equal in every measure other than sharpness. Oh and the fact you can buy two Tamrons for pretty much the price of one Canon.

My 24-70 Canon was stolen a while back and I replaced it with a Tamron. Don't miss it at all.


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Mar 17, 2014 19:41 |  #5

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Dandingo,

I've shot with both and I think honestly that the Tamron was a little sharper personally. Other than missing the red ring (if you are that kind of guy) its pretty much equal in every measure other than sharpness. Oh and the fact you can buy two Tamrons for pretty much the price of one Canon.

My 24-70 Canon was stolen a while back and I replaced it with a Tamron. Don't miss it at all.

Thanks for your input. Pretty much what I'm looking for.


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Mar 17, 2014 20:23 |  #6

I own the Tamron. I had the 24-105. I perfer the 2.8 myself but nothing wrong with the 24-105.

My Tamron is tack sharp

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Mar 17, 2014 21:04 |  #7

↑ That is sharp. How's the auto focus on the Tamron?


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Mar 17, 2014 21:06 |  #8

100% accurate.


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Mar 17, 2014 21:10 |  #9

I just sold my 24-105 for same reason... just waiting for a decent deal on the Tamron




  
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Mar 17, 2014 23:12 |  #10

Iggy12 wrote in post #16766198 (external link)
I just sold my 24-105 for same reason... just waiting for a decent deal on the Tamron

It would be awesome for you if the amazon.ca deal from December returned - $799 Cdn was a heck of a deal.




  
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Mar 18, 2014 05:55 |  #11

If you really want to change I'd go for the Tammy but have you considered this one:

http://www.amazon.co.u​k …8-8&keywords=tamron+24-70 (external link)

Only goes down to 28mm but much cheaper.

I've owned a 24-105L and, although it's a very good walkabout lens, hardly ideal for your purpose.


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Mar 18, 2014 06:14 |  #12

Hi DANDINGO - having a FF body eos6D makes it easier to choose, WHY?

1) Focal Length: should you shift to 24-70 then it would pair with 70-200 w/o focal length overlap
2) I have the Canon 24-105f4.0 and the 24-70f2.8 v1 (but shoots crop, eos7d) hence the overlap.
3) f2.8 is just so much better than f4.0 (the only benefit of the 24-104 is the focal reach/zoom)
4) I haven't used the Tamron version but if you could try it on your camera and shoot a couple, examine the images on a big monitor on your computer - then you might have a verdict
5) If you own (or planning to have) a 70-200 then I would strongly suggest you get a 24-70f2.8 lens in lieu of the 24-105f4.0 (if you can't keep both)

EDIT: the only thing I hate with the 24-70 f2.8L v1 is the darn weight, if you shoot for hours with it then you're gonna feel it in the wrist (but that's just me anyways, and I don't have a grip - no need to add more weight)




  
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Mar 18, 2014 07:13 |  #13
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VirtualRain wrote in post #16765738 (external link)
I can't help you make a decision on the Tamron, but I can propose a different alternative... What about getting a good prime like the Canon 35L or Sigma Art? These are the ideal lenses for environmental portraits (which it sounds like you may be doing).

My problem with f/2.8 is that the DOF is not shallow enough when I want that effect and not deep enough when I don't (particularly at the wide end). f/2.8 will probably do what you want at 70mm, but not at 35. If you really want good subject isolation, you need f/2-f/1.4 which is why I suggest a fast prime in addition to your 24-105. It works amazingly well for my kind of shooting - maybe it will do the same for you?

This is how I came to own an EF 35mm f/2 IS USM. My go-to lens on the 6D is the Tamron 28-75. I wanted to upgrade for faster focus and IS. The 35 got me a stop of light, IS and snap-focus. And it was $800 less than the 24-70 VC. The 35mm focal length is just what I needed.




  
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Mar 18, 2014 09:37 |  #14

no brainer, Tamron is better in every category

24-105 is more like an F5 lens


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Mar 19, 2014 00:28 as a reply to  @ Will Chao's post |  #15

I shot weddings with the 24-105 for 3 years. I also shot other assignments with it as well. I used it wide open a lot and never felt it was lacking.

This is until I bought the Tamron 24-70. I had both lenses for a while and got to see the side by side images. In my opinion Tamron is sharper. The only thing is that the Tamron does not have the extra reach of the 24-105.

I shot a catalog assignment and had to shoot indoors with cluttered backgrounds. The f2.8 of the Tamron came in very handy. BTW, I shot my most recent images with the 6D. What an incredible combo.

A better comparison would be the Canon 24-70 version II vs. the Tamron. I did test both last year at WPPI and felt the Tamron was sharper and with the VC function, the 6 year warranty and the much lower price it was the hands down winner. That is why I bought the Tamron.

I really do not want to upset the die hard Canon guys. This is just my opinion.

As to the resell value, the nod goes to the Canon. Then again, if I can shoot a lens for 6 years knowing the company who made it backs it all the way. In those 6 years I will make enough money so that I would care less what the resell values is.




  
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