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Any of you use only primes for weddings?

 
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Mar 18, 2014 14:21 |  #1

One of my favourite things to do is internet stalk photographers I admire and find out what kit they use, I was doing this to Ed Peers (external link) an amazing British wedding photographer and I found this (external link) article (great website BTW) about his kit. Turns out he only uses primes. He says:

"Making the switch to prime lenses was one of the best things I ever did in terms of developing my photography. You learn to see in various focal lengths and it forces you to think more about your composition and your position relative to the subject."


which to me was a very interesting statement and made me wonder if there are any others out there that work this way? and if so how do you make sure you capture everything required?


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Mar 18, 2014 16:00 |  #2

Yes. No. Depends. Every wedding is different. There is no "one size fits all" answer.


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Mar 18, 2014 16:15 |  #3

androostain wrote in post #16767990 (external link)
One of my favourite things to do is internet stalk photographers I admire and find out what kit they use, I was doing this to Ed Peers (external link) an amazing British wedding photographer and I found this (external link) article (great website BTW) about his kit. Turns out he only uses primes. He says:

"Making the switch to prime lenses was one of the best things I ever did in terms of developing my photography. You learn to see in various focal lengths and it forces you to think more about your composition and your position relative to the subject."


which to me was a very interesting statement and made me wonder if there are any others out there that work this way? and if so how do you make sure you capture everything required?

Not me personally, as I don't shoot weddings, but our wedding photographer also shot primes exclusively. She had a bag full of 5Ds with various prime lenses. If i recall correctly she worked everything from 15mm to 100mm,. Her second shooter had two bodies with two zooms (24-70/70-200). Her images were what convinced my wife that we had to have a 15mm and 85mm. :lol:

As far as it changing the way you shoot. Try it yourself. Trow a 35mm on a camera and walk around for a day, then switch to a 85mm, or whatever. I've found that it does change the way I see things, to an extent. I've also found that it's easy to miss shots if you've only got one body and you're shooting with a prime. ;)


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Mar 18, 2014 20:18 |  #4

I use both. Depends on the situation.


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Mar 18, 2014 20:34 |  #5

Honestly, with enough skill and experience, you should "see" all kinds shots, rather than have your vision pigeonholed into a couple focal lengths. Why train your brain to "see" only in 35mm and 85mm for example? There are a buttload of utterly fantastic imagery you can get at 16mm to 200mm that would provide fantastic variety in your portfolio. I never, EVER understood the "I shoot only primes" thing. I shot manual focus Canon FD/FL primes only for 15 years (purely out of budget) and I cannot see how doing that could benefit me in any way than using competent zooms IN ADDITION to the primes, other than having less gear. I really don't. I gotta be honest, I much prefer primes, and use then through a wedding day as much as possible, but I don't understand why people shun or boycott zooms outright.

I think a lot of people do it because it sounds romantic and elite or something.


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Mar 18, 2014 22:28 |  #6

picturecrazy wrote in post #16768901 (external link)
I never, EVER understood the "I shoot only primes" thing.


This.


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Mar 18, 2014 23:22 |  #7

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I never, EVER understood the "I shoot only primes" thing.

jcolman wrote in post #16769126 (external link)
This.

Is there historical evidence that zoom image quality was once inferior? I'm too young to know what the lenses were like many years ago. I know the difference today is marginal.

Last season I used mainly 35 and 85 mixed with a few other primes and a little 24-70 and 70-200.


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Mar 18, 2014 23:39 |  #8

I only shoot primes that are faster than my zooms, and ONLY if I need the aperture advantage. I have good zooms so IQ isn't significantly better for practical purposes.

Primes aren't inherently better. If you can "see" that you need 35mm it doesn't matter if you picked up the camera that has it or flicked your wrist to it. If you're indecisive, you're screwed either way.


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Mar 18, 2014 23:39 |  #9

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I never, EVER understood the "I shoot only primes" thing.

Is there historical evidence that zoom image quality was once inferior? I'm too young to know what the lenses were like many years ago. I know the difference today is marginal.

Last season I used mainly 35 and 85 mixed with a few other primes and a little 24-70 and 70-200.

Zooms used to suck monkey family jewels.


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Mar 18, 2014 23:41 |  #10

picturecrazy wrote in post #16768901 (external link)
I think a lot of people do it because it sounds romantic and elite or something.

I think they think it's hipster.


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Mar 19, 2014 00:10 |  #11

I shoot manual focus ring aperture control primes; old school, before AF took over. Love it. Zooms are massive. Many Nikkor AI-S primes take 52mm filters. Tiny, light, and sharp on a d800e for pennies on the dollar.




  
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Mar 19, 2014 00:20 |  #12

jetcode wrote in post #16769292 (external link)
I shoot manual focus ring aperture control primes; old school, before AF took over. Love it. Zooms are massive. Many Nikkor AI-S primes take 52mm filters. Tiny, light, and sharp on a d800e for pennies on the dollar.

Manual focus for weddings? wow props to you man, I could never do that.


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Mar 19, 2014 01:21 |  #13

Variety is the spice of life. Why get pigeon holed to set focal lengths? More available focal lengths with zoom means an increased ability to be creative. In the same way that the wider apertures on some primes offer an increased ability to be creative. Put the two together and the only limitation is your imagination and skill.

"You learn to see in various focal lengths and it forces you to think more about your composition and your position relative to the subject"

^^^ Should read

"You learn to see in various set lengths and it forces you to ONLY see in those focal lengths. It forces you to ONLY think more about your composition and your position relative to the subject in relation to those focal lengths. As a by-product it will also make you blissfully unaware of the opportunities you are missing out on as a result of pigeon holing your creativity."


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Mar 19, 2014 06:50 |  #14

picturecrazy wrote in post #16768901 (external link)
I think a lot of people do it because it sounds like your an elitist or something.


Fixed it for ya Lloyd :lol:

I use all of my gear through out the day. With 3 cameras, I always have a zoom and a couple of prime on the body. Zooms are just to versatile to not use them.


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Mar 19, 2014 07:20 |  #15

androostain wrote in post #16767990 (external link)
He says:

"Making the switch to prime lenses was one of the best things I ever did in terms of developing my photography. You learn to see in various focal lengths and it forces you to think more about your composition and your position relative to the subject."

This phrase is why I think its important to start out with primes when you first get into photography, as it forces you to work to frame your shots....and by doing that, it teaches you that for portrait photography, choosing your focal length isn't a matter of convenience...its a matter of understanding the relationship between subject distance and perspective, and controlling field of view/perspective to manipulate the relationship between the subject and background.

Once you understand that concept, you realize that the appeal of zooms isn't the fact that its easy to frame your subject, but that it offers flexibility in terms of FOV. Although zooms are very appealing for highly dynamic shooting environments like a wedding, "zooming with your feet" is still important concept even with a zoom lens!


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