Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Post Processing, Marketing & Presenting Photos RAW, Post Processing & Printing 
Thread started 19 Mar 2014 (Wednesday) 15:44
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

Confused About Print Bleed

 
RandMan
Senior Member
Avatar
403 posts
Gallery: 2 photos
Likes: 2
Joined Mar 2012
Location: Boston, MA
     
Mar 19, 2014 15:44 |  #1

I just can't seem to process this one mentally for some reason. I usually send my finished images to ProDPI for printing. Say I have a landscape or nature photo, for example that I want a 12x18 inch print of.

In Photoshop (cs6) should I be resampling the image to 12.25x18.25 inches, then sending it off?

Or should I set the image up as normal - for example 12x18 and then increase the canvas size by 1/4 inch (then fill the empty canvas with black or white)?


Canon eos7D | Canon 50mm 1.4 | Canon 17-55mm 2.8 | Sigma 70-200mm 2.8 | Yongnuo 565ex | Yongnuo yn-468 II | Canon ef28-135mm 3.5/5.6 | Canon ef-s 55-250mm 4.0/5.6

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
nathancarter
Cream of the Crop
5,474 posts
Gallery: 32 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 609
Joined Dec 2010
     
Mar 19, 2014 16:28 |  #2

What does the print service need?

For standard photographic prints, you don't need much bleed.

For other specialty prints such as metals and press-printed cards, you need some bleed since parts of the product may be cut off after printing, OR the printing equipment is not precise enough to line up the edges of the medium to the edges of the image, right down to the pixel. Or maybe some other reasons I don't know.

Generally, you'll add the bleed amount to each edge. So, 0.25" bleed + 12" image + 0.25" bleed = 12.5" final Photoshop canvas width.

DON'T just add extra black or white to the Photoshop canvas. If the cutter is misaligned by 1/32" then you'll lose a tiny bit of your image on one side (nobody cares), but more importantly you'll have a 1/32" black or white stripe along the edge of the final product (UGH).

Instead, make your image 12.5" x 18.5", and make sure no important compositional elements are within 0.25" of the image edge, 'cause they're getting cut off from the final print. Better yet, leave a margin of 0.5" or even more, where you have image but not IMPORTANT image. Maybe the process is going to cut off 0.3" from one edge and 0.2" from the other edge. No guarantees of precision down to the pixel.

Similarly, if you're doing a graphic layout such as modeling/comp cards, most print services will recommend against including a colored border around the edge of the design. If you have 0.25" cut-off bleed, plus an extra 0.25" black border on your graphic layout, maybe you're going to lose 0.3" off the right side and 0.2" off the left side, and end up with a remaining border that's 0.2" on the left and 0.3" on the right. Unsightly.

Some printed products, such as gallery wraps and book covers, need WAY more bleed in order to have decent content to wrap around the sides & back. A one-inch-thick gallery wrap will need an extra 1.5" on each edge - an inch for the side of the stretcher frame, and a half-inch wrapping around the back of the stretcher frame. So for my 11x14" gallery wrap, I needed to submit an image that was on a 14"x17" Photoshop canvas, AND make sure no important content was within 1.5" of the sides... or really, within 2.0" for safety and composition.

Many print services will offer Photoshop templates, with guides or overlays to help you out.


http://www.avidchick.c​om (external link) for business stuff
http://www.facebook.co​m/VictorVoyeur (external link) for fun stuff

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
EOS_JD
Goldmember
2,925 posts
Likes: 2
Joined Dec 2005
Location: Lanarkshire, Scotland
     
Mar 19, 2014 20:15 |  #3

Yip that covers it really. But honestly a small bleed will hardly be noticed unless you have critical elements on the very edge of the image.


All My Gear
5D MkIII & 5D MKII + Grips | 24-70 f2.8L IS | 24-105 f4L IS | 70-200 f2.8L IS MkII | 50 f/1.4 | 85 f1.8 | 100 f2.8 | 1.4x MkII | Tamron 17-35 f2.8-4

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

1,019 views & 0 likes for this thread, 3 members have posted to it.
Confused About Print Bleed
FORUMS Post Processing, Marketing & Presenting Photos RAW, Post Processing & Printing 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is ANebinger
1159 guests, 172 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.