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Sell the Sigma 150-500OS for a 400mm f5.6

 
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Mar 30, 2014 15:03 |  #1

Hi,

Just thinking - I used to have a 400mm a long time ago on the 7D but found the length restrictive, but looking back on the old images they were pretty good and I think I expected too much of the AF.

So now years on I have a Sigma 150-500 and find I find some shots soft in part due to AF not hitting precisely, that and as I'm getting older I find the lens quite heavy on long walks.

My thoughts are:

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  • Zoom - had to beat that
  • OS - I am happy bumping the ISO on the 5D3 so not as much of an issue as it was on the 7D


Con
  • Weight
  • Inconsistent AF


400mm
Pro
  • AF speed
  • Weight
  • Sharpness


Con
  • Fixed
  • Cost


What are your thoughts - has anyone got both now and can compare especially on the 5D3.

Thanks for any help and advice.


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Mar 30, 2014 15:36 |  #2

Why aren't you considering the 100-400 L IS too? The IS will make up for any minor IQ differences when hand holding or panning.


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Mar 30, 2014 15:45 |  #3

For (AF) BIF the EF 400/5.6 is outstanding. For all other birds I use MF. The 400 on a monopod with a 1.4x TC or 2x TC can deliver great results. Might I also suggest a crop body?


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Mar 30, 2014 15:45 |  #4

Heya,

Alternative, trade up the 150-500 Sigma to the 50-500 Sigma. Better lens in general. You want to keep the reach with that 5D3. I think you'll miss the 100mm loss if you go to the Canon 400mm series lenses.

Alternatively, a 300mm F4L with a doubler would be a nice 600mm option, fixed.

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Mar 30, 2014 15:47 |  #5

My experience with the EF 300/4 L IS was that it did not do well with a 2x TC.


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Mar 30, 2014 16:09 |  #6

Okay, should have given a little more detail: I've had the 100-400 and 50-500OS, of the two the 50-500 was the better, almost as good IQ, better IS\OS and improved range - the 150-500 isn't that much worse but I needed the money at the time so downgraded.

I'm not a fan of lens swapping, which also includes adding\removing TCs.

The reason for all this is possibly due to what and how I shoot - I get bored shooting alone so almost always double up the outings with the family - two young kids and a wife aren't that keen on extended stops :)

I often shoot the kids while I'm out but if I have a long lens at the time I will make 90% of my shots of the birds, squirrels, dear - whatever it might be - thats where the draw of zoom came in, however the sluggish power up time on the 150-500 had made me miss more shots than I care to count - so for example I'm out, see a swan taking off, raise the camera and wait for the motor AF to start up (camera already on of course), once the AF starts going and gets round to focusing all I get it the beasts backside... annoying to say the least and its happened so often. I have of late taken to half pressing the shutter every now and again just to keep it awake which has helped alot.

So as you can imagine this snapshot approach also rules out monopods and tripods.

It may also be worth noting that if I'm out taking real images of the family I take the 135mm f2 - nothing beats that for really nice shots.

The loss of the 100mm was mentioned - I have a feeling (and have read it somewhere too (external link)) that the Sigma 500's don't quite reach 500, more 450 or so, so presuming that Canon are true to their word and really are 400 then it wont be that bad - its more the short end I'd miss.



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Mar 30, 2014 16:12 |  #7

As much as I liked my EF 135/2 (yes, sold my copy,) not sure it rates in the same discussion as 400 and 500mm lenses.


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Mar 30, 2014 16:18 |  #8

gasrocks wrote in post #16797428 (external link)
As much as I liked my EF 135/2 (yes, sold my copy,) not sure it rates in the same discussion as 400 and 500mm lenses.

No, was not related, just pointing out I had a very good alternative for the kids shots just in case the thread discussion got hung up on that point.



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Mar 30, 2014 16:57 |  #9

I've got both lenses and a 7d. I bought the 400 after too much disappointment with the Sigma, mainly inconsistent focusing. I now never use the Sigma, in my experience there is no comparison between the two lenses in terms of focusing performance and image quality.


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Mar 31, 2014 02:12 |  #10

Thanks Tom, that's a +1 for selling.



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John_N wrote in post #16797284 (external link)
Hi,

Just thinking - I used to have a 400mm a long time ago on the 7D but found the length restrictive, but looking back on the old images they were pretty good and I think I expected too much of the AF.

So now years on I have a Sigma 150-500 and find I find some shots soft in part due to AF not hitting precisely, that and as I'm getting older I find the lens quite heavy on long walks.

My thoughts are:

150-500
Pro
  • Zoom - had to beat that
  • OS - I am happy bumping the ISO on the 5D3 so not as much of an issue as it was on the 7D


Con
  • Weight
  • Inconsistent AF


400mm
Pro
  • AF speed
  • Weight
  • Sharpness


Con
  • Fixed
  • Cost


What are your thoughts - has anyone got both now and can compare especially on the 5D3.

Thanks for any help and advice.

I loved the 400mm f/5.6 before I needed the wider aperture. Can't go wrong with the weight savings, which is why you would choose the 400mm f/5.6 and still sells well, after 20 years. No lens correction profile in Lightroom needed, because it's already perfect!


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Apr 02, 2014 06:56 |  #12

Well thank you all again and as a follow up I've a second hand (2007) model landing on my doorstep tomorrow, so lets see what pops up for sale to pay for it!



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