Good replacment for 40d

Looking to upgrade my 40d. What would be a worth while upgrade? Even thoe my 40d has a 10m sensor would I really tell the difference in terms of noise and image quality , I rarely print bigger than a4 size, I am aware that I would have an advantage in cropping.

Bottom line keep 40d and get more glass, or get the advantages of a new body?

Any input would be welcome .

What do you shoot?

I like street, people and night and landscape

Not sure what sort of lenses you have so I can't say if a lens upgrade will be worth it but the 6D is a pretty amazing body if you are looking to switch bodies. Low light, high iso stuff is pretty fantastic all round. Low iso images are extremely forgiving in post processing.

Lots of folks will give you the "once you go full frame you'll never go back" or that the FF gives images some certain (uncertain really) magical qualities. I don't totally buy it as I"ve seen amazing images taken with crop sensors (the 40D was/is a very capable camera). However the 6D IQ Is very impressive.

AF isn't going to be any worse (and in low light it will be much better) than your 40D so as long as that isn't holding you back, no need to look at the 5DIII IMHO.

Overall, it is a fairly small, light camera. LOTS of "bang for the buck".

It would be a pretty substantial upgrade IMHO.

Some of the mirrorless systems (I'm particularly fond of Fuji X system at the moment) may also be worth considering if you are looking to/willing to move away from a DSLR system (or start a parallel system).

Well, sometimes it is a trade off - glass vs. new body. You didn't tell us what glass you have, so it is a bit difficult to suggest anything. It would also be nice to know what your "budget" is. If you are looking for a new body, then why not look at the 70D. It came out last year, whereas the 40D that you have is about 7 years old. Maybe it is time to take advantage of the newer technology - 70D 20.2 megapixel sensor vs. 40D at 10.1 mpxls. As well, the "technology" in the 70D is, presumably, much better than that in the 40D. You can check the 70D out here - http://www.dpreview.co​m …s/canon/slrs/ca​non_eos70d. B&H are selling the "body only" for about $1100.

Ultimately it depends on you and what you feel you need - good glass is always better, in my opinion, unless the features of a new body trump the need for new glass - your decision.

WesternGuy

I sort of narrowed it down to a 6 d or 70 d it's a tough call. I got a 70-200 f4 is and would like either 17-55 or 24-70 2.8 depending which body I go for. My mate has a 5 d mk2 which I have used but I felt it only came into its own when you started to blow things up . I printed a couple of a3 photos from 5 d and it was in a diffent class to the 40d . I think what I would like to know first is how much better is the newer 70d Sensor is compared with the 40 d. Most of you guys probably had a 40 d at one time.

My first DSLR was a Rebel XT (350d), and after using my cousin's 40D for about 5 minutes, instantly knew that I needed to upgrade. The 40D was an upgrade in every way from the 350d, the speed, image quality, lcd, larger viewfinder, weight/ergonomics, all were a huge upgrade.

In the last year, I have a purchased, in order, a 5d, 7d, and 60d. I truly believe that every single one of these cameras is an upgrade from the 40d, albeit in different ways. For straight IQ, I still prefer the 5d. Sure it is old, clunky, and slow, but it puts out some amazing images. The rear LCD is really bad on the 5d also, but once you get the pictures on the computer, who cares?? I really believe I will eventually go to all full-frame, and wanted the 6d, but knowing I actually needed to buy two more bodies, I just wasn't financially there yet, as I am not set-up glass wise to transition to all full-frame. If you want to try out a FF body on a budget, I would without a doubt recommend the 5d, you can find them used for around $500.

The 7D and 60D are also both big upgrades from the 40d. The image quality isn't all that different than the 40d, but they are both definitely better at higher ISOs, and I really don't mind shooting even ISO 12800 in a pinch on either of them as they can both be cleaned up fairly nicely. I would much rather have a sharp, noisy image than a blurry one.

The overall speed and AF quality of the 7d are a huge upgrade from the 40d. I find the 60d focuses faster than the 40d did also. The 7d and 60d both have great rear LCD's, with the 60d having the advantage of the swivel screen if you need it. I much much much prefer the layour and ergonomics of the 7d over the 60d, but it's something that you could get used to over time. More than anything, the 7d is just more similar to the 40d and 5d, whereas the 60d is totally different. The video on the 60d and 7d are also quite fun to play with.

If you are on a budget, I would recommend the 5d or 60d as upgrades (both around $500). If money is not as much of an issue, pick up the 6D if you want FF, or the 7D if you want to stick with crop.

Thank you davidmtml that was a brilliant explanation you just about explained everything I wanted to know thank you . I think the canon 6d would be the camera for my type of shooting , just need to get either 24-105 or 24-70 as my other lens. By the way i very nearly bought a 7d a few months ago but was put off by the massive learning curve I was told I would have to go through.

tongard wrote in post #16813627
Looking to upgrade my 40d. What would be a worth while upgrade? Even thoe my 40d has a 10m sensor would I really tell the difference in terms of noise and image quality , I rarely print bigger than a4 size, I am aware that I would have an advantage in cropping.

Bottom line keep 40d and get more glass, or get the advantages of a new body?

Any input would be welcome .

every newer camera will make you pretty happy... especially with a4 size and smaller....
I would go for 60D if you don´t need better AF system + new techs and want save some money.
or take 70D for newest crop body with some sweet features and AF system.

or take 5dmkIII, if you are not limited by budget and need very flexible camera.

I refuse to look at a 5d mk3 , I know if I pick one up I will want to buy it!!

I went from 40D to 5D3 about a couple months ago, and while I was impressed with the new body, I was actually more appreciative of 40D in the process of making the transition. In other words, 40D is a very capable camera, particularly image wise. I couldn't detect any significant improvement in image quality with 5D3 over 40D.

Functionality wise, 5D3 is miles ahead of 40D, such as with AF, ISO, HDR, video, AEB, etc. The question is which of the 5D3 functions are going to make an impact in the way you use for your photographic purposes and needs. In my case, I don't need its video capability as I already have a dedicated Canon XA10 for all my video needs. I suppose it's still nice to have the video capability in a photo camera. I don't do built-in HDR that can only result in jpeg final image. It's pretty cool at first but it's one of those things I'll never use again in favor of going with multiple AEB shots and processing via Photomatix. The area that 5D3 definitely made the difference for me is ISO low noise, customizable AF, double card slots, number of AEB shots, spot meter, and silent shutter from off my head right now -- all of these features with room for improvements, at that.

So, bottom line - keep your 40D or upgrade to cheaper (than 5D3) bodies knowing what features you really need and look for really nice lenses.

I love my 60D, I bought it to use as my primary camera relegating my 40D to backup status. The AF is better than the 40D, seems a bit lighter. I have less accidental button presses with the 60D. The high ISO performance is better and it uses SD. Overall it was a worthwhile purchase at $600 but it is more of a progression than an upgrade.

Depends on what you want, you could move on up to full frame.

Every current model on the market right now would be an upgrade to the 40D. However, given what you shoot I'm not sure it would be an upgrade that would make a difference in your photography. Go for glass.

Another option would be to change systems. For people and street, some thing more subtle can be advantageous. Would you consider one of the new Fuji X series or, even better, the Sony a7R?

If I didn't need long lenses or really snappy AF I would have sold off all my canon gear and converted to a nice Sony rig...but I do, so I haven't.

about two weeks ago i went from using my 40D for 6 years to a new 70D...so far the main real advantages are a bit better AF, and the ability to use much higher ISO

there's a lot more bells and whistles that i haven't gotten too into yet...but over all from just a photography stand point the 40D held up pretty well for being as old as it is

in buying the 70D, i feel as though i've made all my lenses about 2 stops faster, just because of being able to use higher ISO

When I got a new camera while using the 40D, I got myself a 7D. But that was in 2009, so the playing field is of course not the same any longer.