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Apr 09, 2014 15:05 |  #16
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If I'm wrong I will apologize to the buyer . but still it common sense that is a scam.




  
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Apr 09, 2014 15:39 |  #17

thinkharder wrote in post #16821933 (external link)
If I'm wrong I will apologize to the buyer . but still it common sense that is a scam.

Nigerian scammers don't actually make a PayPal payment. Common sense says to wait until PayPal completes its review. Common sense never causes people to assume the worst and overreact.




  
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Apr 09, 2014 15:41 |  #18

Shane W wrote in post #16821873 (external link)
Did you recieve PayPal payment as "gift" or as sold goods? just wondering if they are starting to crack down on the use of the GIFT option as payment for acctual goods..

Have you tried transfering the funds out of PayPal and into a bank account or are the funds showing but frozen until review is complete?

No, the payment is via regular Paypal.

You cannot transfer or use the funds until Paypal verifies the payment.

It's on hold.




  
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Apr 09, 2014 15:42 |  #19

moose10101 wrote in post #16822017 (external link)
Nigerian scammers don't actually make a PayPal payment. Common sense says to wait until PayPal completes its review. Common sense never causes people to assume the worst and overreact.

This may be true, but there's still a way around it.

I know scammers on Craigslist uses a hacked paypal account or even go as far as claim the transaction is "fraud" after the item has been shipped.




  
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Apr 09, 2014 15:44 |  #20
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moose10101 wrote in post #16822017 (external link)
Nigerian scammers don't actually make a PayPal payment. Common sense says to wait until PayPal completes its review. Common sense never causes people to assume the worst and overreact.

Where you been mars? lots of them been using paypal to scam people , they will put money in the account then once you shipped the item they will claim it a fraud. you need to used Google more on paypal scam




  
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Apr 09, 2014 15:45 |  #21

Windsun33 wrote in post #16821868 (external link)
That said, I would not ship until you get the official notice.

My biggest fear is what if Paypal "Ok'd" the transaction and it turned out as scam? I don't know what's my recourse and for $1400, I don't want to take risks.

I know everyone has to start somewhere (regarding feedbacks) but I don't feel too good about this one. I think I will just issue a refund.


Initially, I thought it's fine, especially when he said there's no rush in shipping since he won't be back in US after 3 months.




  
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Apr 09, 2014 15:45 |  #22
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Rittrato wrote in post #16822031 (external link)
This may be true, but there's still a way around it.

I know scammers on Craigslist uses a hacked paypal account or even go as far as claim the transaction is "fraud" after the item has been shipped.

yes that is complete true !




  
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Apr 09, 2014 16:52 |  #23

thinkharder wrote in post #16821933 (external link)
If I'm wrong I will apologize to the buyer . but still it common sense that is a scam.

If you knew how Paypal worked and their user agreement, you might think otherwise. Paypal puts a hold on funds for a number of reasons. Once they clear it, you should be fine. if the buyer is happy to wait even longer for shipping, then wait to ship. In the end you have to use your gut feel however, and if it feels bad, then back out.


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TeamSpeed wrote in post #16822175 (external link)
If you knew how Paypal worked and their user agreement, you might think otherwise. Paypal puts a hold on funds for a number of reasons. Once they clear it, you should be fine. if the buyer is happy to wait even longer for shipping, then wait to ship. In the end you have to use your gut feel however, and if it feels bad, then back out.

It common sense to know that people wont buy an expensive lens and shipped somewhere else and will be out of state or country.




  
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Apr 09, 2014 17:20 |  #25

thinkharder wrote in post #16822216 (external link)
It common sense to know that people wont buy an expensive lens and shipped somewhere else and will be out of state or country.

The scam usually goes the other way. They are traveling and want the lens sent to a different address than the confirmed address. In this case, if the address is confirmed, and the buyer is happy to wait for shipping until he arrives back, then it may very well not be a scam. Again, it is not hard to research the person, the paypal address, etc to find out more about them.

With just a screen name and a few posts here, I can often find out what the person's name is, their address, etc. It is an evil skill I have acquired through the years, it might have developed while having some security clearances I had in a prior life. ;)

Just ask rmanncobb... just joined with 5 posts, and I know quite a bit of personal info already. :lol:


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TeamSpeed wrote in post #16822228 (external link)
The scam usually goes the other way. They are traveling and want the lens sent to a different address than the confirmed address. In this case, if the address is confirmed, and the buyer is happy to wait for shipping until he arrives back, then it may very well not be a scam. Again, it is not hard to research the person, the paypal address, etc to find out more about them.

With just a screen name and a few posts here, I can often find out what the person's name is, their address, etc. It is an evil skill I have acquired through the years. ;)

Then you should own your business call it undercover Teamspeed . :lol:Well the seller already made his decision and I believed he doing the right thing.




  
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Apr 09, 2014 17:53 as a reply to  @ thinkharder's post |  #27

yes i am just experiencing this myself right now - the buyer on ebay ( ist pruchase of course so no history ) has clicked my mint 100-400 lens with the buy it now price - the given address is in the USA but when i try to contact them re shipping info and insurance charges etc i get a unintelligible reply off what looks like possibly a russian ebay site in russian and no further genuine contact from the buyer of course

russian scammer i reckon ( change from nigerian ) - so be wary if it looks sus it probably is !!!!
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Apr 09, 2014 18:02 |  #28

thinkharder wrote in post #16822216 (external link)
It common sense to know that people wont buy an expensive lens and shipped somewhere else and will be out of state or country.

That common sense might be wrong then, because I have bought expensive things to a completely different shipping address and picked it up at a later time. If I'm working in a different country for some while, I might not want any extra items that I'll later have issues to get home.


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Apr 09, 2014 20:38 |  #29

Just a thought... Would the buyer consider paying for the item now. And then have it shipped once he arrives in the USA?


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Apr 09, 2014 20:47 |  #30

One word answer: REFUND.




  
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