Some Easy Advice For Someone Who Knows...

Hi All,

I am just after a little advice with regards to shooting a wedding ceremony / speeches video tomorrow...

I am by no means a videographer nor aspire to be, however some very close friends are getting married tomorrow and asked myself and my girlfriend to video the wedding (I help my other half shoot weddings in my spare time).

Neither of us have used the video on our 7D and 60D before so just looking for a few pointers!

I have read up about the 4GB limit and also the 29:59 limit. I did a trial last night with my 16GB card and we have planned to run both cameras 6 minutes apart so that a professional editor can stitch them together to avoid the 2 or 3 second break between the start and stop of recording.

My main question is about the fps, I did my trial set on 1920x1080 and 25fps. I know my recording limits etc, but should I be recording at 50fps?

My inexperience in this field says I should record at 50fps but will anyone notice the different between shooting at 25 rather than 50?

If someone can come back shortly and say 25fps is perfectly fine, that I'll be very happy as not more experiments required until the day with f.stop, ISO and microphone level..

Thanks in advance and I'll check back later after I whoop the boss at golf

25fps will give you a more film like quality to the video. Besides the short record time, and need to monitor the camera to make sure it is working, you will need microphones to clearly record the vows. At least a shot gun mic on camera about 10 feet away from the officiant/speaker. Most pro video people use wireless lavalier mics and external recorders.

On 60D, I assume you are in PAL mode not NTSC because you are in England?

You can record up to 11min59sec, then the record button needs to be pushed again, regardless of memory card size. The limit is 29:59 on newer cameras, not the 60D. As far as 25vs50, there is a very noticeable difference. Higher fps will generally capture more frames thus reducing motion blur (which makes things look jaggedy and not so smooth). Stick with 25fps, at a shutter speed of 1/50. Generally you bump the fps and shutter speed up when you want to catch a lot of frames and then later slow them down for slo-mo, which probably isn't what you want.

https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=cpPyBH1PHbQ

thedcmule2 wrote in post #16824267
On 60D, I assume you are in PAL mode not NTSC because you are in England?

You can record up to 11min59sec, then the record button needs to be pushed again, regardless of memory card size. The limit is 29:59 on newer cameras, not the 60D. As far as 25vs50, there is a very noticeable difference. Higher fps will generally capture more frames thus reducing motion blur (which makes things look jaggedy and not so smooth). Stick with 25fps, at a shutter speed of 1/50. Generally you bump the fps and shutter speed up when you want to catch a lot of frames and then later slow them down for slo-mo, which probably isn't what you want.

25fps is what is displayed on both the 60D and the 7D..

Can someone please explain the shutter speed for video? Why does 1/50 give a classic look? I guess what I'm after is just a clean crisp video...

Just realised I can change the fps down to 24fps so I'll stick with that if that's what you recommend.

That is what I recommend because in the US we use NTSC mode, 25fps doesn't exist in that mode, but that's not a huge difference. What is important is that both of your cameras are synced identically in terms of settings, including picture style, white balance and audio.

Generally it's a rule of thumb that the shutter speed should be double your fps, it has to do with the 180 degree shutter idea from the traditional film days. You can learn more here and in the description:

https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=IA7izwkm7m4
http://vimeo.com …tting-the-record-straight

Realize in photography, a shutter speed of 1/4000 is extremely fast and stops motion blur completely. Same thing in video, except in video classic motion blur is necessary as it makes human motion look fluid. While it's not absolutely required, it is a really nice look. If you prefer the "digital harsh crispy" look, you can of course use fast shutter speeds with high fps but be aware that you lose light when doing this.

thedcmule2 wrote in post #16824340
That is what I recommend because in the US we use NTSC mode, 25fps doesn't exist in that mode, but that's not a huge difference. What is important is that both of your cameras are synced identically in terms of settings, including picture style, white balance and audio.

Generally it's a rule of thumb that the shutter speed should be double your fps, it has to do with the 180 degree shutter idea from the traditional film days. You can learn more here and in the description:

https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=IA7izwkm7m4
http://vimeo.com …tting-the-record-straight

Realize in photography, a shutter speed of 1/4000 is extremely fast and stops motion blur completely. Same thing in video, except in video classic motion blur is necessary as it makes human motion look fluid. While it's not absolutely required, it is a really nice look. If you prefer the "digital harsh crispy" look, you can of course use fast shutter speeds with high fps but be aware that you lose light when doing this.

That's brilliant, thank you.

Had a look in the manual and it says 25fps is for Europe (I'm in uk) and 24fps is for motion pictures, should I just shoot in 25fps as after all it will be viewed in this country.. Im guessing its to do with the hertz the Tv's play at?

The settings I'll use will be the following:

1920x1080x25fps
1/50
ISO - tbc
F./ - tbc

Yes stick with what is recommended for your region. Your settings are perfect, do not forget manual white balance and picture style otherwise you'll have two slightly different looking videos and that will be a pain to correctly match all of it.

You guys are superstars, thank you!

Can't wait to get back to taking some photos.... Haha