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Apr 16, 2014 09:27 |  #136

ruzgar344 wrote in post #16837973 (external link)
good question. To make better portraits. I thought that it would be better than 70-200 f/2.8 L is ii usm with better f/1.2 option but I can see that I can not use f/1.2 every time due to lack of sharpness and focusing problems at f/1.2

135 would've been a good option, getting a full portrait at f/1.2 would be pretty hard. Sometimes every shot just cant have bokeh


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Apr 16, 2014 09:44 |  #137

KeenanRIVALS wrote in post #16837977 (external link)
135 would've been a good option, getting a full portrait at f/1.2 would be pretty hard. Sometimes every shot just cant have bokeh

I agree with you. Now I think I'll go with my 70-200 f/2.8 l is ii usm and Sigma 50mm Art for portraits. Thanks!




  
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Apr 16, 2014 09:48 |  #138

ruzgar344 wrote in post #16837973 (external link)
good question. To make better portraits. I thought that it would be better than 70-200 f/2.8 L is ii usm with better f/1.2 option but I can see that I can not use f/1.2 every time due to lack of sharpness and focusing problems at f/1.2

I suspect that what you're experiencing is not a sharpness or focus problem, but the inherent challenge of shooting at f1.2 @85m without IS. Extremely shallow DOF....for tightly framed shots, even the slightest movement in the time between the AF lock and the release of the shutter will throw your subject out of focus.

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135 would've been a good option, getting a full portrait at f/1.2 would be pretty hard. Sometimes every shot just cant have bokeh

Depends on the look you’re going for….they’re not really interchangeable, IMO. Longer focal lengths compress the background elements to an indiscernible blur.

Wider focal lengths like 85, 50, and 35 keep more of the background elements in the frame, but with a wide aperture, are still able to isolate the subject. Creates a sense context, dimension, and pop that you don't get when you blur the background elements completely out of the frame.


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Apr 16, 2014 10:14 |  #139

ruzgar344 wrote in post #16837973 (external link)
good question. To make better portraits. I thought that it would be better than 70-200 f/2.8 L is ii usm with better f/1.2 option but I can see that I can not use f/1.2 every time due to lack of sharpness and focusing problems at f/1.2

Portraits. Okay, but my point is that they are very different portraits between the two. And I agree with the other poster that you're probably just experiencing the learning curve of shooting fast glass. It's your money to toss around, but IMO, I'd take a little bit of time to learn and really find out what your shooting style is before shuffling glass around and taking a hit on each transaction; at this point, you seem to be throwing darts and hoping for a bulls-eye without even knowing what direction the board is in.


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Apr 16, 2014 10:18 as a reply to  @ mystik610's post |  #140

Many call the 85L the ultimate portrait lens. On full frame, the focal length is much preferred, the lens is sharp, and the rendering of this lens has no match. It's my favorite lens. I would miss not having this lens for portrait, candids, events and street.


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Apr 16, 2014 10:27 |  #141

thanks for all guys. I read all the comments and thank you so much!




  
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Apr 16, 2014 10:34 |  #142

50mm is also less ideal for portraits than 85mm. It works, but 85mm works better imo. My Rokinon 85mm is my go to portrait lens.


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Apr 16, 2014 16:54 |  #143

$949? I'm out. It disgusts me that Canon will not make a decent 50mm at a decent price...


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Apr 16, 2014 18:17 |  #144

twoshadows wrote in post #16839121 (external link)
$949? I'm out. It disgusts me that Canon will not make a decent 50mm at a decent price...

I think all things being relative that this is quite the value:confused:


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Apr 16, 2014 18:30 |  #145

twoshadows wrote in post #16839121 (external link)
$949? I'm out. It disgusts me that Canon will not make a decent 50mm at a decent price...

The 50/1.4 is decent... it's not amazing, but it's certainly not a "bad" lens either.

Why not just get the old Sigma 50mm?


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Apr 16, 2014 19:05 |  #146

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Not sure if posted but here's Digital Pictures comparison between Canon 50 1.2 vs Sigma 50 1.4 Art

http://www.the-digital-picture.com …omp=0&FLIComp=0​&APIComp=4 (external link)

As expected, the Signa blows the Canon out of the water even Sigma at F1.4 vs 50L at f/2.0

Wow! Amazing optics. I love Sigma for doing this. They give you value and performance. Bravo!


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Apr 16, 2014 20:16 |  #147

KeyserSoze1 wrote in post #16839446 (external link)
Wow! Amazing optics. I love Sigma for doing this. They give you value and performance. Bravo!

as a 50L owner.... this really stings a lot. That said, I'll still grudgingly keep it.

It's gifted me many great photos and I'm happy with it. New kid on the block is badass no doubt.


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Apr 16, 2014 20:40 |  #148

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as a 50L owner.... this really stings a lot. That said, I'll still grudgingly keep it.

It's gifted me many great photos and I'm happy with it. New kid on the block is badass no doubt.

kudos for owning the 50L and not having some vendetta against the 50A


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Apr 16, 2014 20:45 |  #149

Charlie wrote in post #16839574 (external link)
as a 50L owner.... this really stings a lot. That said, I'll still grudgingly keep it.

It's gifted me many great photos and I'm happy with it. New kid on the block is badass no doubt.

I've owned it too in the past, couple of copies actually. I do like the 50L a lot, but I always tell myself, what if this lens was sharp wide open, it could be one of Canon's Top 5 prime lens.


I understand that resolution really isn't really in everyones list, but it would be nice if Canon can match Sigma's 50 1.4 Art line if they do release a mark II verison of the 50L, or at least close to the 85 L's sharpness would be sufficient IMO.


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Apr 16, 2014 21:30 |  #150

Not to start anything, but I've owned the Sigma (x2) and the Canon (x2) f/1.4's and the lowly
canon f/1.8 mkII and this is what I'm doing now. I shoot mainly people in and out of the studio, so not demanding. For what I do, the f/1.8 II is all that I need. Mine (actually my wife's, lol, but I can use it if i'm nice to her ;) ) is accurate from wide open, reasonably sharp and not very loud or "buzzy" as some report. It's 10 years old and works great.

I would really enjoy a "decent" f/1.4 fifty, and by decent I mean one that focuses consistently, quietly and (relatively) quickly. it's not hard or expensive to do. (Look at the 85mm f/1.8 or even my 28-105 - both prosumer lenses that meet those specs.) I'm not looking for the finest in optics - so no L's or "Arts" for me apparently. But the Canon 50mm f/1.4 is seriously outdated and needs a refresh yesterday.

In the end, I refuse to spend more than $500 on a 50mm. Given that and considering the offerings, I will stick with my f/1.8 II until someone comes up with what I think is a reasonable alternative. YMMV


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