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Apr 12, 2014 21:11 |  #1

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Was contacted by a backdrop printer - they want to use one of our photos for a backdrop image. They want to pay on a royalty basis, although they haven't mentioned a number yet.

What would a fair royalty percentage be? Would a flat rate monthly fee be appropriate?

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http://butterflybackdr​ops.com (external link)


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Apr 12, 2014 22:46 |  #2
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Just ask them what they pay. Looks like a tiny company, from the website


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Apr 13, 2014 09:54 as a reply to  @ Karl Johnston's post |  #3

If you like their stuff, why not work out a trade for a new backdrop from time to time? They send you something new, you shoot a few shots against it and give them permission to use them and get another new backdrop at some point in the future.


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Apr 13, 2014 11:03 |  #4

Karl Johnston wrote in post #16829465 (external link)
Just ask them what they pay. Looks like a tiny company, from the website

Yeh, I am doing that now. Weird that they would express interest, offer a royalty, but not mention a percentage. Would love to hear someone that has done this before - I have no idea what kind of profit margin the printer is working with on these things.


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Apr 13, 2014 11:05 |  #5

Old Coot wrote in post #16830066 (external link)
If you like their stuff, why not work out a trade for a new backdrop from time to time? They send you something new, you shoot a few shots against it and give them permission to use them and get another new backdrop at some point in the future.

I don't know if I like their stuff or not - never tried one of their backdrops. They are looking to use one of my images to print backdrops. I only want $$.


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Apr 13, 2014 11:55 |  #6

If you want to license a film and make it into a video game you offer a royalty - however, your offer would need to include a guaranteed minimum royalty which is either paid up front or split part on signing, part on approval and part on publication. In short you have to have faith that the product will sell and pay money up front.

This company should have sales projections based on previous products. It would be perfectly reasonable for you to ask what those projections are and also ask for money up front, in the form of a guaranteed royalty. This also helps to minimise non-payment of royalties.

You also need a very good contract that defines what you get, what happens (auditing) if you don't think you are getting what you should and who pays for it.


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Apr 13, 2014 14:21 |  #7

Dan Marchant wrote in post #16830256 (external link)
If you want to license a film and make it into a video game you offer a royalty - however, your offer would need to include a guaranteed minimum royalty which is either paid up front or split part on signing, part on approval and part on publication. In short you have to have faith that the product will sell and pay money up front.

This company should have sales projections based on previous products. It would be perfectly reasonable for you to ask what those projections are and also ask for money up front, in the form of a guaranteed royalty. This also helps to minimise non-payment of royalties.

You also need a very good contract that defines what you get, what happens (auditing) if you don't think you are getting what you should and who pays for it.

Your comment about auditing is a pertinent one. How would I ever know how many are sold? This makes me think that a guaranteed minimum (like you mention) makes sense.


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