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Apr 16, 2014 15:34 |  #1

New camera and interesting how the edges of the bird are overly contrasty, almost 3D and not pleasing. Standard exposure and nothing out of the way in EXIF: ISO 100, 1/322, F/ 6.4, etc.

I have not had a result like this before and granted, this was just out testing the camera and not a great image, but serves as an example. RAW, converted to jpg with Instant Jpeg from RAW and cropped. The RAW looks identical in Lightroom.

How can I avoid this in the future?

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Apr 16, 2014 15:47 |  #2

Turn the sharpening down! That image shows the classic signs of having been over sharpened.

sometimes you cannot help a slight halo around very sharp high contrast edges, it's caused by diffraction occurring as the light passes the subject. What you have in that image though looks to be pretty much down to sharpening. I say that as you can see the halos in low contrast edges too.

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Apr 16, 2014 15:52 |  #3

There is no sharpening. Its a raw that has had nothing done to it :)

But thanks Alan. And this is why I ask. I cannot find any setting that would cause this.

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Apr 16, 2014 15:55 |  #4
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A matter of taste? I see nothing wrong with the image. As for the 3D effect, well, some of us buy Carl Zeiss lenses to get precisely that.


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Apr 16, 2014 15:59 |  #5

The only thing I see wrong with this image is the moment you chose to capture it. I would have waited until the bird's head was not backed by the branch, which is very close in hue and brightness -- enough to lose the bird in it. I think you're worrying over the wrong details.


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Apr 16, 2014 16:05 |  #6

Interesting comments. To me it looks like it was cut and pasted from another image. I'm surprised this does not bother you folks as much as me.

Fortunately, has not yet affected any keeper images. I do want to know how to avoid this if there is a general rule.

Thanks for taking the time to comment. I'll look forward to more.

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Apr 16, 2014 16:16 |  #7

Looks fine to me. Really sharp which is probably just unusual to you. I suspect the "problem" is just how the branch happens to be just barely less focused which is just enough to make it look like it is maybe from another slightly softer image. A wider aperture might blur the branch behind the bird a bit more or a narrower one would sharpen it up making it the same sharpness as the bird. Both would probably accomplish what you want.


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Apr 16, 2014 16:57 |  #8

rebop wrote in post #16838938 (external link)
There is no sharpening. Its a raw that has had nothing done to it :)

But thanks Alan. And this is why I ask. I cannot find any setting that would cause this.

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Did you convert this to jpeg using Canon DPP? Reason I ask is if your camera's custom functions have the sharpening cranked, DPP will apply that sharpening when converting to jpeg I believe.

Try converting the RAW to jpeg usingInstant jpeg from Raw (external link), which is a program that everyone should have (IMO).

Give that a try, and see if it still looks the same. If it does... then I got nothin'.


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Apr 16, 2014 17:16 as a reply to  @ KirkS518's post |  #9

Looks fine to me as well... i see no halos.


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Apr 16, 2014 17:35 |  #10
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There is indeed a very thin halo running down the right side of the bird. But one has to be pixel peeping to notice it.

Not trying to dismiss your concern, rebop. Myself, I'm fussy as heck, and I perfectly understand your annoyance.


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Apr 16, 2014 17:51 |  #11

KirkS518 wrote in post #16839133 (external link)
Did you convert this to jpeg using Canon DPP? Reason I ask is if your camera's custom functions have the sharpening cranked, DPP will apply that sharpening when converting to jpeg I believe.

Try converting the RAW to jpeg usingInstant jpeg from Raw (external link), which is a program that everyone should have (IMO).

Give that a try, and see if it still looks the same. If it does... then I got nothin'.

From my post:

RAW, converted to jpg with Instant Jpeg from RAW and cropped :)

I could understand if it was jpg out of the camera or if DPP. But this kinda baffles me.

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Apr 16, 2014 18:39 |  #12

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There is indeed a very thin halo running down the right side of the bird. But one has to be pixel peeping to notice it.

Not trying to dismiss your concern, rebop. Myself, I'm fussy as heck, and I perfectly understand your annoyance.

That's not really a "halo". It's just edge lighting. The light is coming from the side and slightly from the rear of the bird. It's providing what we call "separation lighting". Something we often do on purpose. Perhaps that's what you're referring to?


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Apr 16, 2014 18:51 |  #13

I think you are closer. I do not notice what I would call a halo. But I do see what looks like the bird was carefully cut out of another image and pasted in here. It looks unnatural to me. Particulalrly on the left wing (bird's right) in the picture.

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Apr 16, 2014 18:58 |  #14

It's a fairly high contrast image; I'd try backing your contrast down a little bit and see if that doesn't soften the effect up for you a bit.


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Apr 16, 2014 19:09 |  #15

Notice hoe the light is falling from the back edge around the neck area without any light coming from directly behind because there is a dark background of the branch? That's your big contrasty area causing you to think this. Had this been front lit you wouldn't experience this.


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