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Apr 17, 2014 10:06 |  #1

Went into local print shop to see about getting a print done. I starting asking about proofing and the guy says they only take jpegs. I said thanks, but no thanks. Weird or what?


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Apr 17, 2014 10:14 |  #2

Sounds pretty common. Personally I send my stuff to MPix for prints, they do great work and are quick and cheap.


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Apr 17, 2014 10:25 |  #3

I do not want to spend time working a photo shop file and then save it as a jpeg. Might as well save the camera file and resize to print size and print and forget the processing part. Maybe I got this printing thing all wrong.


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Apr 17, 2014 10:43 |  #4

What is your objection to the .jpeg?




  
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Apr 17, 2014 11:41 |  #5

Nothing for online or quick printing. For a wall hanging I want quality. Would you hang a jpeg print in a gallery?


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Apr 17, 2014 11:47 |  #6

ericcrazyman wrote in post #16841040 (external link)
Nothing for online or quick printing. For a wall hanging I want quality. Would you hang a jpeg print in a gallery?

I have. I think you are imagining extreme quality loss from the .jpg that may or may not exist. A .jpg of sufficient size will make a good quality print.




  
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Apr 17, 2014 13:53 |  #7

The very slight loss of quality in a JPEG at minimal compression is nothing compared to the loss of quality (dynamic range and resolution) inherent in the printing process. The print is the weak link in the chain.


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Apr 17, 2014 16:11 |  #8

ericcrazyman wrote in post #16841040 (external link)
Nothing for online or quick printing. For a wall hanging I want quality. Would you hang a jpeg print in a gallery?

I hang .jpeg prints in the gallery all the time. They sell. Not sure what your issue with printing .jpegs is.


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Apr 17, 2014 16:20 as a reply to  @ Woolburr's post |  #9

I print from jpeg all the time, through a good lab, and the prints are good enough to do well in regional (usually North Wales) print battles, the last one I was in I scored higher than some prints that have been doing the rounds on the national exhibition circuit, where standards for acceptances are pretty high. I have also won the projected digital image category for North Wales, last year, and came in the top 3 this year. Both with Jpegs of course.

Of course, it is normal for the vast majority of the exhibition prints to be printed from jpeg, if not all of them. I certainly don't know anybody who uses anything else for their competition and exhibition prints or PDIs.




  
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Apr 17, 2014 19:52 |  #10

So out of curiosity: What format were you expecting to print from?

I print my own stuff directly from PS to a Canon 6220 and Canon 9500 depending on the client, but for large orders I will use either Costco or Staples. Both are jpeg sent with Print Correction disabled, profile information and a note to not screw with the colour correction, and because of the amount of trouble I've given them for doing it, is usually followed.


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Apr 17, 2014 19:59 |  #11

I did a large metal jpeg print - in fact the shot was taken and saved only in jpeg. It looks great.

What format do you expect them to take??


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Apr 17, 2014 20:21 |  #12

ericcrazyman wrote in post #16840879 (external link)
I do not want to spend time working a photo shop file and then save it as a jpeg. Might as well save the camera file and resize to print size and print and forget the processing part. Maybe I got this printing thing all wrong.

Colour correction, cropping/sizing, sharpening; the 3 basics of digital correction will be noticeable if missing in any format.

Saved in high quality jpeg, lots of space to work with. Sufficiently corrected and sharpened would not show loss.

Even working in L.a.b. you would not save anything terrific once you go to print in cmyk. Colour space would still be blown away.

I'm not getting this :confused:


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Apr 17, 2014 20:32 |  #13

The alternative to submitting a high-quality jpeg to a print provider is to submit a tiff. Many shops/labs won't take tiffs because of the large file size (and maybe software issues). A high quality jpeg should stand up well...

Now, yeah, I have heard a couple users say that they saw a "quality difference" between a print from a jpeg and one from a tiff. Although most of us haven't "nailed" that and maybe most of us haven't seriously "researched" it, if you really want you'd need to find a provider that would accept tiffs.

As to "proofing", my advice is to crop out a part of the image and have them print on letter-size paper, so you can view that part of the scene from the distance that you would view the large print at.


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Apr 17, 2014 20:39 |  #14

Weird as in they only do jpegs or weird that you think that there's something wrong with printing from jpegs? Here's a clue: it's not #1.


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Apr 25, 2014 02:09 |  #15
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Walmart prints jpgs. They have one size larger than 20"x30", I do believe. Not sure about the biggest size, but the 20"x30" ones look just fine. It's been a while, but I think they used to be $29.95. That is half what my local (Nikon) retailer charges for similar prints.




  
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