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Apr 21, 2014 02:49 |  #1

Hi all,

Want to try using a beauty dish for some shots. What do you consider to be the minimum size requirement? Ideally I would want to do more than just head shots-suppose I want it to be as flexible as possible! Any advice gratefully received.

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Apr 21, 2014 03:02 |  #2

A beauty dish is a fairly direct light source but I use my 22" Paul C. Buff dishes quite often. Sometimes with a diffusion sock, but more often with a grid to control spill. It seems 22" is about the standard size, and I personally wouldn't go smaller than that.


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Apr 21, 2014 03:48 |  #3

Staszek wrote in post #16849600 (external link)
A beauty dish is a fairly direct light source but I use my 22" Paul C. Buff dishes quite often. Sometimes with a diffusion sock, but more often with a grid to control spill. It seems 22" is about the standard size, and I personally wouldn't go smaller than that.

Agree with Staszek, 22" is the standard size, going smaller isn't recommended. 22" is the most popular, so that means it has the most competition and prices don't jump. If you look at the MOLA beauty dishes, they can cost as much as a new lens! I have the 22" kacey beauty dish with a ring mouth for an alien bee. I love it, I bring it to all my outdoor shots primarily because umbrellas catch wind easily and the beauty dish is more sturdy


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Apr 21, 2014 08:24 |  #4

22" min. For more than head shots I would want the bigger kacey dish or the Mola.


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Apr 21, 2014 08:51 |  #5

Happy with my 22" here; though I need to get a grid for it.




  
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Apr 21, 2014 09:12 |  #6

Thanks for the info so far. Would I get more than just head shots from a 22", or is that pretty much all you'd recommend using that size for?

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Apr 21, 2014 09:14 |  #7

Just seen the price of a MOLA 28".

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Apr 21, 2014 09:51 |  #8

beegeeboy wrote in post #16850045 (external link)
Just seen the price of a MOLA 28".

:shock:

MOLA than you can afford pal...

I have a cheap Fotodiox 22" white.




  
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Apr 21, 2014 12:36 |  #9

beegeeboy wrote in post #16850041 (external link)
Thanks for the info so far. Would I get more than just head shots from a 22", or is that pretty much all you'd recommend using that size for?

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You can get nice full body light with the 22" beauty dish, but the feet fall off pretty rapidly. There is a sweet spot in the subject-to-light distance for the beauty dish. If you back it off too far and the light becomes very hard, though maybe that's what you want. Up close, its a beautiful thing.


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Apr 21, 2014 12:46 |  #10

beegeeboy wrote in post #16850041 (external link)
Thanks for the info so far. Would I get more than just head shots from a 22", or is that pretty much all you'd recommend using that size for?

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David

If you are using it for more coverage than a headshot, you are probably using it wrong. Its a harder light, meant to provide contrasty light for portaits. Its meant to be used close. If you want to cover a bigger area you probably want a different modifier. Backing it up to cover too much means you are almost to the point of losing any softness than a direct flash. You can use a diffusion sock, but in effect it becomes a small round softbox.




  
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Apr 21, 2014 12:59 |  #11

beegeeboy wrote in post #16850045 (external link)
Just seen the price of a MOLA 28".

:shock:

it's my most versatile piece of lighting equipment and would be the last piece i ever sold ;)


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Apr 21, 2014 13:20 |  #12

gonzogolf wrote in post #16850574 (external link)
If you are using it for more coverage than a headshot, you are probably using it wrong. Its a harder light, meant to provide contrasty light for portaits. Its meant to be used close. If you want to cover a bigger area you probably want a different modifier. Backing it up to cover too much means you are almost to the point of losing any softness than a direct flash. You can use a diffusion sock, but in effect it becomes a small round softbox.

Ah, I see! Thanks for this...you can tell I know next to nothing about how to use one!

More learning on the horizon methinks...

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Apr 21, 2014 13:21 |  #13

FJ LOVE wrote in post #16850610 (external link)
it's my most versatile piece of lighting equipment and would be the last piece i ever sold ;)

There's no way I could justify the cost...however versatile it might be!

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Apr 21, 2014 13:33 |  #14

I have a Bowens 500mm BD.
I use it for Headshots or the head in combo with a soft-box.
I sure am no expert, but for full body shots ummmmmm.

I think what you want, to do both is a big Octa box with a double diffuser.
If you are in the UK - then try Rocwing. Bowens lookalike's 1.4 meter diamerter. Very heavy duty and £69
Less than the cost of my bowens beauty dish case!


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Apr 21, 2014 13:38 |  #15

See here
http://www.ebay.co.uk …nt_RL&hash=item​2c650a3b10 (external link)

Ok they are £75!


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