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Apr 21, 2014 14:37 |  #1

I'd love some CC on this.

Honestly, I'm tearing my hair out over this image. I just can't get it right.

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This statue stands in Calgary, AB, and it is a replica of the one at Bannockburn.

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Apr 21, 2014 14:38 |  #2

Boring picture of a statue. What are you expecting to "get right"? A perfectly exposed shot is still just a snapshot of a copy of someone else's art.


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Apr 21, 2014 17:06 |  #3

neacail wrote in post #16850816 (external link)
I'd love some CC on this.

Honestly, I'm tearing my hair out over this image. I just can't get it right.

This statue stands in Calgary, AB, and it is a replica of the one at Bannockburn.

Is it possible to get a different viewpoint? Maybe where you are not looking up at the statue, but a higher vantage point that would allow a background that provides interest. Maybe a different time of day with dramatic light might help.

I am sure there must be some way to get the photo you want. Photographing any type of public art, be it statues, buildings, etc. can provide an interesting image. But it may take a few visits, several attempts. Please post what you come up with.


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Apr 21, 2014 23:20 |  #4

It looks OK to me, but I wonder if it might be more interesting in more dramatic light like near dawn or dusk.


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Apr 22, 2014 12:13 |  #5

@Numenorean: Harsh ! But describes fairly well my reaction to the shot as well.

Unless you're adding context somehow, creating some kind of juxtaposition or are creating the image in a way that introduces a new aesthetic, I'm afraid that the most you can really aspire to with a shot like this is a basic formal registration of that statue being a statue and your having been there.

But I think it's a decent image, for what it is.

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Boring picture of a statue. What are you expecting to "get right"? A perfectly exposed shot is still just a snapshot of a copy of someone else's art.



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Apr 22, 2014 13:02 |  #6

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It looks OK to me, but I wonder if it might be more interesting in more dramatic light like near dawn or dusk.

I think it would be much more interesting with some deep shadows.


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Apr 24, 2014 19:03 |  #7

Try pasting some blue sky in the background, keep the statue B&W, could be interesting.


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Apr 24, 2014 21:56 |  #8

PhotosGuy wrote in post #16851844 (external link)
It looks OK to me, but I wonder if it might be more interesting in more dramatic light like near dawn or dusk.

IMO the light is too dramatic. Some of the black shadows look like bags under the honoree's (and the horse's) eyes. I'd like more-diffuse light, like near dawn or dusk. Then the statue might look more like what it's supposed to represent and less like metal.

Maybe PGuy and I mean different things by "dramatic."


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Apr 24, 2014 23:28 |  #9

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Maybe PGuy and I mean different things by "dramatic."

Depending on the direction it faces, the light might be at a better angle + less contrasty.


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Apr 24, 2014 23:54 |  #10

Along with what's been said, that dark patch of sky upper right bothers me, and looks like a 'mistake' in my mind. I'm also not very fond of the crop (too tight or something).


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Apr 25, 2014 00:15 |  #11

PhotosGuy wrote in post #16859640 (external link)
Depending on the direction it faces, the light might be at a better angle + less contrasty.

Less contrasty is exactly what I meant. The surfaces are harshly lit, and the large amount of bumpy texture (e.g., in the horse's covering) competes for attention with the shapes.


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Apr 25, 2014 01:23 |  #12

KirkS518 wrote in post #16859665 (external link)
Along with what's been said, that dark patch of sky upper right bothers me, and looks like a 'mistake' in my mind. I'm also not very fond of the crop (too tight or something).

My thoughts were the same.


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Apr 25, 2014 08:32 as a reply to  @ swjim's post |  #13

Thanks everyone! It has been an insane week, it is going to take a bit for me to read through and mull over all of the comments.

The statue is in a difficult location. It is on top of a hill, overlooking downtown Calgary. In addition to that, the statue is presently being restored, and construction debris and caution tape make things a bit challenging.

I've got a couple of (very) low quality samples on the computer I'm on right now that I can post to show some more of the area and another perspective. I have regular access to the statue, so I have plenty of opportunity to try different things.

I've got lots to play with from the back of the statue (where I'm standing to the north of the statue), which is at the top of the hill (it drops off sharply on the other side of the brick wall):

IMAGE: http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/a435/Iasgair/img_1634_zps0f076dd2.jpg

When I'm east of the statue, I'm pretty pleased with the perspective (this isn't my favourite crop, but this one was cropped this way for a colleagues desktop wallpaper). Actually, as a Scottish ex-pat, I LOVE this perspective. It really, really speaks to me: facing an unknown future and an oncoming storm. I love the sky in this one, and I'm thinking I should try creating a composite: the first image I posted with this sky.

IMAGE: http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/a435/Iasgair/img_1637_zps55714e2c.jpg

For the original photo I posted, I was standing west of the statue: which is where most of the construction debris is. There is a lot of graffiti on this side of the statue, as well. Hopefully that will be taken care of during the restoration. It is also the steepest part of the hill, and I was well below the statue.

Thanks again, folks. :) I really appreciate the time you've taken to give me your thoughts. Now, I just need to take the time to read through and absorb them all.

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Apr 25, 2014 10:38 |  #14

neacail wrote in post #16860154 (external link)
I've got lots to play with from the back of the statue (where I'm standing to the north of the statue)

In that shot, the horse is grazing on the treetops. I would avoid this effect.


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Apr 26, 2014 08:41 |  #15

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Is it possible to get a different viewpoint? Maybe where you are not looking up at the statue, but a higher vantage point that would allow a background that provides interest.

A background should not provide interest what a background needs to do is compliment the image.The background should not distract from the subject.




  
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