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Where to apply sharpening - Lightroom, Photoshop, both?

 
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May 02, 2014 07:40 |  #1

I've been generally happy with my photos but I'm wondering what the experts have to say on this. On raw images, do you suggest applying all the sharpening in lightroom, all the sharpening in photoshop, or a bit of sharpening in lightroom and then sharpen some more (while masking out areas not to be sharpened where appropriate) in photoshop?




  
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May 02, 2014 07:50 |  #2

I don't use Lightroom, but in Photoshop I sharpen in ACR and then use the masking slider to limit the sharpening. If there is an area that needs more sharpening, I'll apply a high pass filter and then mask to hit just the areas where I want additional sharpening. But usually the ACR sharpening is enough.


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May 02, 2014 08:33 |  #3

I give a light sharpen in ACR depending on image thru defaults/presets. I use a little more when ouputting to jpeg from Bridge. If a image goes to PS then I only use the ACR default sharpening and then sharpen as a final step after flattening the file depending on size.


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May 02, 2014 09:31 |  #4

I use the standard amount of sharpening that Lightroom applies automatically..

I then use high pass filter set to around 1.5, and mask it to where it is needed ( eyes, jewelry, hair etc )


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May 02, 2014 09:31 |  #5

In LR light input sharpening costumized to subject and ISO along the lines outlined here: https://photography-on-the.net …hp?p=16873488&p​ostcount=3
Followed by local sharpening or desharpening with brush or rad filter. For printing directly from LR at 11x16.5, I'm generally pretty satisfied by ending up with LR's output sharpening. For larger prints done by my lab (usually 20x30, sometimes 26x39) I might add a bit of High Pass to the LR output sharpening. Same thing for low res web post ups.


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May 02, 2014 12:04 |  #6

I generally start in lightroom and do all adjustments there. If I go to Ps, its for localized, layer based changes. Maybe its because im used to it, but Lr is more intuitive to me and makes more sense. Its also better looking than ACR!


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May 02, 2014 12:51 |  #7

I sharpen in PS, only with a file at the desired output size, and often selectively.


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May 02, 2014 13:18 |  #8

I myself have been overall happy with using Lightroom sharpening if my output is for the Web and personal use or "sharing" with others for viewing and whatnot. I'll use the Lightroom "input" sharpening to taste (fine details, viewed at 100%) and then I'm pretty happy with the screen "standard" Output sharpening when Exporting. Note that when people mention that they use ACR (not Lightroom) they have the same input sharpening tools as Lightroom and can, if they wish, use the Export function with the Output sharpening tools as well. Photoshop does provide those capabilities with recent versions.

The question arises as to when other steps may be desirable. I have done some "selective" sharpening using the Lightroom adjustment brushes, it has come in handy with, for example, wildlife shots where I want to optimize detail in the critters while keeping the background softer or even softening it with a brush.

Doing special "output sharpening" in Photoshop is, well, a choice, and not something I've really jumped into, but I may consider it if I wade into doing more large prints...that is, prints that will get a viewing that will benefit from "touches" that Lightroom may not suffice, I'm not sure because for the photos I take and the way they are "shared" I just haven't seen the need!


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May 05, 2014 10:39 |  #9

When I use Lightroom I just use the export page options for sharpening. I also like Standard for the amount of sharpening. I exported the 3 levels and took them to a local printer to see the difference. All were good and the differences were subtle.

For personal hobby work I use PS. For output I use Smart Sharpen filter and have it set up for edge sharpening which is a custom thing.

My guess when using LR export sharpening there are things like edge sharpening going on in the back ground that we don't see.


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May 05, 2014 10:56 |  #10

digital paradise wrote in post #16883398 (external link)
My guess when using LR export sharpening there are things like edge sharpening going on in the back ground that we don't see.

For sure. And the exact blends and proportions of different sharpening types is altered according to three parameters: resizing, ppi and strength setting.


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May 05, 2014 11:31 |  #11

It does a great job. That is why I had such a hard transition from PS to LR. Lost the control of viewing the final product before saving. Now I love it and trust it. A local award winning photographer works strictly with LR.


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May 05, 2014 20:11 |  #12

I generally just use LR, utilising both the input and output sharpening tools. My usual settings are normally between about 60-100 on amount. Radius 1 to 1.5 detail between 0 and 20 and masking 90 to 100. I generally use standard plus the appropriate destination type and PPI for the OP sharpening. If I have to do a lot of work in PS then I might give it a bit of High Pass sharpening, usually running the HP filter at a radius of 5.0 and using the layer opacity along with a layer mask to fine tune the result. The image will though go back to LR for final output, and get LR OP sharpening too.

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May 06, 2014 04:05 |  #13

I use a three stage routine. Starting with a light "pre-sharpen", then at a convenient point a general sharpen before finally giving the image an "output sharpen.

All this is done in Photoshop with a plug-in sharpener. The actual amounts vary from image to image, so I cannot offer any figures.


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May 06, 2014 09:32 |  #14

LR defaults make you to do at least two if you are not aware of the 3 phases. Capture and output. You can turn capture down to zero and uncheck the output sharpening box when you export but I doubt many people do this.


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May 12, 2014 21:24 |  #15

I do most of my processing in Lightroom then export to Photoshop to sharpen on a new layer and use masking.




  
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