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May 06, 2014 06:09 |  #1

What plugin/preset do you use for skin softening of wedding photos?
Do you use it in batch?

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May 06, 2014 12:02 |  #2

How could one batch process skin softening when the skin is in different areas from shot to shot. Almost all who retouch skin do so on a photo by photo basis. I use Lightroom, using the healing spot tool as well as brushing in negative clarity.



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May 06, 2014 12:18 |  #3

Yes, you cant batch process skin processing. For weddings I dont do much in the way of skin processing except for a few of the bridal portraits. Thats not to say I dont do some spot cleanup but not the whole skin softening route. Thats fairly time intensive even if you use a plugin or action.




  
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May 06, 2014 12:42 |  #4

mjordanke wrote in post #16885400 (external link)
What plugin/preset do you use for skin softening of wedding photos?
Do you use it in batch?

Thanks for answers in advance!

You'll spend a crazy amount of time doing that for every bride photo. Just retouch blemishes.




  
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May 07, 2014 22:19 |  #5

I use the two layer/gaussian blur/history brush method, it works quite well.


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May 08, 2014 08:53 |  #6

I've seen quite a few different methods - here's one that seems to work well, gives you a lot of control over how much skin texture is retained, and is fairly easy.

http://www.ppmag.com …softening-skin-kelby.html (external link)




  
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May 08, 2014 18:34 |  #7

On 50 year reunion classes I import into LR with a setting of -30 clarity - then adjust individually as needed. Negative clarity works very nicely in many cases. Too much turns skin to plastic.


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May 09, 2014 08:24 |  #8

I use the two layer/gaussian blur/history brush method, it works quite well.

Could you elaborate on this, or point me to a document or link?

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May 09, 2014 09:36 as a reply to  @ kjhart0133's post |  #9

Steps:

  • Take care of glaring skin issues first, large pimples, etc. by cloning/healing
  • CTRL-J to make a copy layer of your subject material
  • Create a new history snapshot
  • Surface blur that layer to taste, usually threshold is about 1/2 the radius or so (depends on subject)
  • Create a new history snapshot of that blurred result
  • Click on the first history snapshot (gives you back the original view)
  • Set the history brush flag on the 2nd history snapshot (the blurred one)
  • Get the history brush, size it accordingly and set strength to around 30% or so, make it a soft brush
  • Touch up the face as needed, if you need more just go back over again


If you like to use black masks and then paint with white what should be affected, you could do that too, instead of using the history snapshot/history brush. This above is an alternative to that. I do this the way defined above because all the steps up to the point of painting in the "smoothing" effect can be stored in an action. I have an action that does all the steps above up through the last step, and then all I need to do is take the brush and start painting the areas.

The nice thing with the Kelby approach is that you get some skin detail back on the final step due to the "soft light/other->high pass" layer, but there are much more steps to this overall, you have to decide which way works best.

All the other ways, from what I can tell, require you to do the brushing as an intermediate step with canned steps before and after. I tried to find a way where I could get most everything done with an automated action, and all I had to do was brush as the last step.

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