Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Index  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Guest
New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Canon Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon EF and EF-S Lenses 
Thread started 11 May 2014 (Sunday) 01:57
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

Canon 15-85mm best affordable lens for landscapes?

 
Mike55
Goldmember
Avatar
4,206 posts
Likes: 9
Joined Jun 2007
Location: Chicago, Illinois
     
May 12, 2014 15:36 |  #16

Keep your 18-55 and get a UWA, the Sigma 10-20 or Canon 10-22. Especially for national parks. Make sure you at least have a 55-250 or better for wildlife. Don't forget a good quality CP for the UWA.


6D | 70D | 24-105 L IS | 17-40 L | 300 F4 L IS | 50 1.8 II | 1.4x II | LR5 | HV30 | bug spray | wilderness
Gallatin National Forest, Montana (external link)/Lassen Volcanic NP Campgrounds (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)
Mike55
Goldmember
Avatar
4,206 posts
Likes: 9
Joined Jun 2007
Location: Chicago, Illinois
     
May 12, 2014 15:36 |  #17

DreDaze wrote in post #16897924 (external link)
for $600, i'd rather get a sigma 10-20mm, and a 55-250IS to add to your 18-55mm...you'll be able to go wider than 15mm when you want to, and longer than 85mm when you want to as well...yes you'll have to change lenses, but you should get used to that...changing lenses is what makes DSLR's great


Agreed.

BTW, I've got a mint 55-250 IS for sale if the OP is interested.


6D | 70D | 24-105 L IS | 17-40 L | 300 F4 L IS | 50 1.8 II | 1.4x II | LR5 | HV30 | bug spray | wilderness
Gallatin National Forest, Montana (external link)/Lassen Volcanic NP Campgrounds (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
norski_lab
THREAD ­ STARTER
Mostly Lurking
10 posts
Joined May 2014
     
May 12, 2014 20:37 |  #18

Thank you all for your responses! I appreciate the help for helping me decide on what lens to choose.

After reading all of your comments I decided to go with the 15-85mm...I feel as though this will give me some wide angle shots, albeit not being too wide, while still allowing me to zoom into certain places.

I was very close to buying the Sigma 10-22, I just don't think I would need that wide of a lens for this sort of trip.

I start my job in a couple of months so I will have a little more spending power once spring hits, so if the 15-85mm doesn't live up to my expectations then I may take a look at the sigma again. I don't need an ultra zoom quite yet because I am not that into wildlife photography. Mostly just sticking to landscapes for now and then going from there...

Thanks again for the recommendations!




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
mine1
Goldmember
Avatar
1,289 posts
Likes: 4
Joined Jun 2012
Location: Kalispell Montana
     
May 12, 2014 21:18 |  #19

well the site is under maintenance right now but, make sure you at least check out the refurbs that are on sale right now. you get the exact same warranty as you get with a new lens but for 20% less than msrp, and right now another 15% off of that.


http://www.flickr.com/​photos/81190407@N08/ (external link)
Canon 60d.Canon 18-135, 55-250 II, and 10-18 stm. and Benro C-1681t Travel Angel, with Sirui K20x head.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Mike55
Goldmember
Avatar
4,206 posts
Likes: 9
Joined Jun 2007
Location: Chicago, Illinois
     
May 12, 2014 22:30 |  #20

norski_lab wrote in post #16900345 (external link)
Thank you all for your responses! I appreciate the help for helping me decide on what lens to choose.

After reading all of your comments I decided to go with the 15-85mm...I feel as though this will give me some wide angle shots, albeit not being too wide, while still allowing me to zoom into certain places.

The 15-85 is not exactly great at 15mm, so the "wide angle" you get there (which isn't really all that wide) will be the weak point of your lens. And if you plan to shoot in forests (Sequoia NP, Redwood NP), and stream canyons, 15mm is not wide enough. If you plan to shoot in meadows, across lakes, and in the big river valleys, the 15-85 will be excellent.


I don't need an ultra zoom quite yet because I am not that into wildlife photography. Mostly just sticking to landscapes for now and then going from there...

If you are focusing on landscapes, why are you going to tour the national parks without a wide angle lens? A long time ago I made this same mistake. Figured I'd save you the hassle.

Also, you may not be into wildlife photography now, but if you are out there with your 15-85 and a grizzly bear runs down an elk, or a herd of bison stampedes across a river, you very will soon be. ;)

For the price of a 15-85, you could have a Sigma 10-20 and a 55-250 IS, and have all your bases covered. This isn't like going to a city and walking around a museum. Mother nature puts on a slightly better show. You will be kicking yourself for only having the 15-85.

A bunch of years ago I used a program called Focal Point to chart my trips to the national parks. The program, via color graphs, shows you where you took most of your shots in terms of mm. At the time I had the kit lens 18-55 and the 70-300 IS. 75% of my shots were at 18mm and 300mm. That is known as "bumping against a wall".

good luck.


6D | 70D | 24-105 L IS | 17-40 L | 300 F4 L IS | 50 1.8 II | 1.4x II | LR5 | HV30 | bug spray | wilderness
Gallatin National Forest, Montana (external link)/Lassen Volcanic NP Campgrounds (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
mine1
Goldmember
Avatar
1,289 posts
Likes: 4
Joined Jun 2012
Location: Kalispell Montana
     
May 12, 2014 23:38 |  #21

Mike55 wrote in post #16900586 (external link)
The 15-85 is not exactly great at 15mm, so the "wide angle" you get there (which isn't really all that wide) will be the weak point of your lens. And if you plan to shoot in forests (Sequoia NP, Redwood NP), and stream canyons, 15mm is not wide enough. If you plan to shoot in meadows, across lakes, and in the big river valleys, the 15-85 will be excellent.




If you are focusing on landscapes, why are you going to tour the national parks without a wide angle lens? A long time ago I made this same mistake. Figured I'd save you the hassle.

Also, you may not be into wildlife photography now, but if you are out there with your 15-85 and a grizzly bear runs down an elk, or a herd of bison stampedes across a river, you very will soon be. ;)

For the price of a 15-85, you could have a Sigma 10-20 and a 55-250 IS, and have all your bases covered. This isn't like going to a city and walking around a museum. Mother nature puts on a slightly better show. You will be kicking yourself for only having the 15-85.

A bunch of years ago I used a program called Focal Point to chart my trips to the national parks. The program, via color graphs, shows you where you took most of your shots in terms of mm. At the time I had the kit lens 18-55 and the 70-300 IS. 75% of my shots were at 18mm and 300mm. That is known as "bumping against a wall".

good luck.


I am pretty sure that the 15-85 is actually best at 15mm, now it does have major distortion (but less than the 24-105), but If I remember correctly pretty much all reviews say it is sharpest at 15mm.


http://www.flickr.com/​photos/81190407@N08/ (external link)
Canon 60d.Canon 18-135, 55-250 II, and 10-18 stm. and Benro C-1681t Travel Angel, with Sirui K20x head.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
DreDaze
happy with myself for not saying anything stupid
Avatar
18,112 posts
Gallery: 45 photos
Likes: 2374
Joined Mar 2006
Location: S.F. Bay Area
     
May 12, 2014 23:58 |  #22

norski_lab wrote in post #16900345 (external link)
Thank you all for your responses! I appreciate the help for helping me decide on what lens to choose.

After reading all of your comments I decided to go with the 15-85mm...I feel as though this will give me some wide angle shots, albeit not being too wide, while still allowing me to zoom into certain places.

I was very close to buying the Sigma 10-22, I just don't think I would need that wide of a lens for this sort of trip.

I start my job in a couple of months so I will have a little more spending power once spring hits, so if the 15-85mm doesn't live up to my expectations then I may take a look at the sigma again. I don't need an ultra zoom quite yet because I am not that into wildlife photography. Mostly just sticking to landscapes for now and then going from there...

Thanks again for the recommendations!

don't be afraid to use a telephoto for landscapes as well...especially those big mountains...i think something like the 55-250IS could be used just as much as a wide angle...

but congrats on the lens, and enjoy the trip


Andre or Dre
gear list
Instagram (external link)
flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
mine1
Goldmember
Avatar
1,289 posts
Likes: 4
Joined Jun 2012
Location: Kalispell Montana
     
May 13, 2014 00:00 |  #23

ohh I forgot about vingetting as well at 15 but here are a couple of reviewers that say it is sharpest at 15mm.

http://www.cameralabs.​com …85mm_IS_USM/ver​dict.shtml (external link)

http://www.photozone.d​e …canon_1585_3556​is?start=1 (external link)


http://www.flickr.com/​photos/81190407@N08/ (external link)
Canon 60d.Canon 18-135, 55-250 II, and 10-18 stm. and Benro C-1681t Travel Angel, with Sirui K20x head.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Mike55
Goldmember
Avatar
4,206 posts
Likes: 9
Joined Jun 2007
Location: Chicago, Illinois
     
May 13, 2014 01:50 |  #24

mine1 wrote in post #16900710 (external link)
I am pretty sure that the 15-85 is actually best at 15mm, now it does have major distortion (but less than the 24-105), but If I remember correctly pretty much all reviews say it is sharpest at 15mm.


Maybe. I definitely trust Photozone and like CL. But the two copies I owned were fantastic at the long end, and brutal at the wide.


6D | 70D | 24-105 L IS | 17-40 L | 300 F4 L IS | 50 1.8 II | 1.4x II | LR5 | HV30 | bug spray | wilderness
Gallatin National Forest, Montana (external link)/Lassen Volcanic NP Campgrounds (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
mine1
Goldmember
Avatar
1,289 posts
Likes: 4
Joined Jun 2012
Location: Kalispell Montana
     
May 13, 2014 11:30 |  #25

I only tried one copy (rented) and it was great all the way around. yes the vignetting and distortion is bad at the wide end but that is very easily fixed. I did find one review back in the day that showed it best at the long end but couldn't find it last night.


http://www.flickr.com/​photos/81190407@N08/ (external link)
Canon 60d.Canon 18-135, 55-250 II, and 10-18 stm. and Benro C-1681t Travel Angel, with Sirui K20x head.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Preeb
Goldmember
Avatar
2,600 posts
Gallery: 102 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 657
Joined Sep 2011
Location: Logan County, CO
     
May 13, 2014 12:41 |  #26

Mike55 wrote in post #16900586 (external link)
The 15-85 is not exactly great at 15mm, so the "wide angle" you get there (which isn't really all that wide) will be the weak point of your lens. And if you plan to shoot in forests (Sequoia NP, Redwood NP), and stream canyons, 15mm is not wide enough. If you plan to shoot in meadows, across lakes, and in the big river valleys, the 15-85 will be excellent.

15mm is plenty wide. When I had my 35mm Minolta SLR, the widest lens I ever owned was 28mm and that was wide enough for nearly all outdoor work (I spent many, many weekends in Rocky Mountain National Park). 15mm on a crop is a 24mm FF equivalent, so he is gaining on what I had then. He will be fine, and what little he can't get can be stitched from multiple shots.

Even now, my 10-22 is mostly used for building interiors. Ultra wide is not really a general purpose landscape lens. It's more of a lens for special circumstances, and tends to be overused in some landscape work. I mean, is that giant rock (which is really not all that large) in the foreground really a significant subject? I'm not saying that it's not a valid pursuit for a photographer, but it's not something that every photographer wants or needs.


Rick
6D Mark II - EF 17-40 f4 L -- EF 100mm f2.8 L IS Macro -- EF 70-200 f4 L IS w/1.4 II TC

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Mike55
Goldmember
Avatar
4,206 posts
Likes: 9
Joined Jun 2007
Location: Chicago, Illinois
     
May 13, 2014 14:27 |  #27

Preeb wrote in post #16901822 (external link)
15mm is plenty wide.



Limiting yourself to 15mm on crop for outdoor landscape work doesn't make any sense.


Even now, my 10-22 is mostly used for building interiors. Ultra wide is not really a general purpose landscape lens.

It all depends on your location. A 10-20 is a general purpose landscape lens when you're trekking in a forest or river canyon. It's more specialized when in the lower valleys and big meadows. Here, the 15-85 will thrive.


It's more of a lens for special circumstances, and tends to be overused in some landscape work. I mean, is that giant rock (which is really not all that large) in the foreground really a significant subject? I'm not saying that it's not a valid pursuit for a photographer, but it's not something that every photographer wants or needs.

I'm not sure it's overused, just poorly implemented by many photogs who try and get too much in the picture.

But, if you want your pictures to stand out and not look like tourist shots, the fastest way to do that is to practice with 10mm on crop and compressed landscapes. In this era of smart phone cameras, a UWA is becoming more of a necessity to stand out in the crowd.


6D | 70D | 24-105 L IS | 17-40 L | 300 F4 L IS | 50 1.8 II | 1.4x II | LR5 | HV30 | bug spray | wilderness
Gallatin National Forest, Montana (external link)/Lassen Volcanic NP Campgrounds (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Mike55
Goldmember
Avatar
4,206 posts
Likes: 9
Joined Jun 2007
Location: Chicago, Illinois
     
May 13, 2014 14:28 |  #28

mine1 wrote in post #16901651 (external link)
I only tried one copy (rented) and it was great all the way around. yes the vignetting and distortion is bad at the wide end but that is very easily fixed. I did find one review back in the day that showed it best at the long end but couldn't find it last night.

http://www.parkcamper.​com …sus-17-40L-comparison.htm (external link)


6D | 70D | 24-105 L IS | 17-40 L | 300 F4 L IS | 50 1.8 II | 1.4x II | LR5 | HV30 | bug spray | wilderness
Gallatin National Forest, Montana (external link)/Lassen Volcanic NP Campgrounds (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
norski_lab
THREAD ­ STARTER
Mostly Lurking
10 posts
Joined May 2014
     
May 13, 2014 14:55 |  #29

I can definitely see both sides to the conversation with the 10-20 and the 15-85mm. I honestly wanted something that would provide "some" zoom, but not an ultra wide zoom (150mm+).

I think the wideness of the 15mm will suffice to get me started, and I'll enjoy the 85mm for some close ups. I purchased a used one on ebay last night for 460 which I don't think is bad at all...

Also, have you guys seen the new line up that was announced today for the canon 10-18mm? This might become a good subsitute for the Sigma 10-20mm ($130 bucks cheaper too).

Canon 10-18mm (external link)




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Mike55
Goldmember
Avatar
4,206 posts
Likes: 9
Joined Jun 2007
Location: Chicago, Illinois
     
May 13, 2014 15:06 |  #30

I'd jump all over that new 10-18, Norski. Not sure when it will be on the shelves though. The MTF looks sharper than the 10-22.


6D | 70D | 24-105 L IS | 17-40 L | 300 F4 L IS | 50 1.8 II | 1.4x II | LR5 | HV30 | bug spray | wilderness
Gallatin National Forest, Montana (external link)/Lassen Volcanic NP Campgrounds (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

7,980 views & 0 likes for this thread
Canon 15-85mm best affordable lens for landscapes?
FORUMS Canon Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon EF and EF-S Lenses 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Index   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.1forum software
version 2.1 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is DdsT
2162 guests, 346 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.