Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Post Processing, Marketing & Presenting Photos RAW, Post Processing & Printing 
Thread started 21 May 2014 (Wednesday) 18:50
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

Q: Retrieving original 3:2 after shooting at other aspect ratio.

 
wayne_eddy
Goldmember
Avatar
1,931 posts
Gallery: 2 photos
Likes: 15
Joined Jun 2006
Location: Perth, 'straya
     
May 21, 2014 18:50 |  #1

Hi all,

I've been shooting with the 5DMK3 for a couple of years now, actually picked it up the day it was released. Great camera!

So my query:

I regularly shoot at the 1:1 crop ratio and often set the in camera aspect ratio to 1:1 to produce the composition I want. In the live view mode I see a 1:1 representation of the scene but when I shoot the shot and preview the image on the LCD it shows the full 3:2 image captured by the sensor plus the two vertical lines indicating where the camera software will crop it down to 1:1.

When later viewing the images in Lightroom, I see that when they are loading, Lightroom initially renders them as a 3:2 while loading and then renders them to 1:1 as stipulated by the data in the RAW file.

So if 3:2 is recorded by the camera in RAW and Lightroom forces me to view it in 1:1, is there some way to retrieve the image back to 3:2, the ratio captured by the sensor?


wayne eddy
[I'm calibrated - are you?]
Gear List

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Colorblinded
Goldmember
Avatar
2,713 posts
Gallery: 18 photos
Best ofs: 3
Likes: 724
Joined Jul 2007
     
May 21, 2014 18:54 |  #2

I've never tried this myself but I would imagine if you just reset the crop option in Lightroom that it would show you the full image.


http://www.colorblinde​dphoto.com (external link)
http://www.thecolorbli​ndphotographer.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
tonylong
...winded
Avatar
54,657 posts
Gallery: 60 photos
Likes: 571
Joined Sep 2007
Location: Vancouver, WA USA
     
May 21, 2014 19:58 |  #3

You know, this is strange, a thread popped up not long ago with a similar question, but I don't remember who or when it was discussed! I did a search of "aspect ratio" and there were of course plenty or threads, I just don't see that particular one!

I believe the user found an answer, I just don't remember what it was, maybe someone who sees this will remember!


Tony
Two Canon cameras (5DC, 30D), three Canon lenses (24-105, 100-400, 100mm macro)
Tony Long Photos on PBase (external link)
Wildlife project pics here (external link), Biking Photog shoots here (external link), "Suburbia" project here (external link)! Mount St. Helens, Mount Hood pics here (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
dave_bass5
Goldmember
Avatar
4,329 posts
Gallery: 34 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 303
Joined Apr 2005
Location: London, centre of the universe
     
May 22, 2014 13:35 |  #4

I know you can remove the crop in DPP, but not sure how to then get the image in to LR.
You can transfer to PS and this honours the un cropped image, so maybe its a 3 step process.
I just tried saving the un cropped .cr2 file from DPP but LR is still seeing the crop.

Interestingly DPP shows AR as 1:1 in the Exif, even if you remove the crop. This could be how LR knows about the crop.


Dave.
Gallery@http://www.flickr.com/​photos/davebass5/ (external link)
Canon R7 | Canon EOS-M50 | Canon 24-70 f/2.8L MKII | 70-300L | 135L f/2.0 | EF-S 10-18 | 40 f/2.8 STM | 35mm f/2 IS | Canon S110 | Fuji F31FD | Canon 580EXII, 270EXII | Yongnuo YN-622C Triggers.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Colorblinded
Goldmember
Avatar
2,713 posts
Gallery: 18 photos
Best ofs: 3
Likes: 724
Joined Jul 2007
     
May 22, 2014 14:50 |  #5

Well now I'm really curious, I'm going to have to try this.


http://www.colorblinde​dphoto.com (external link)
http://www.thecolorbli​ndphotographer.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
dave_bass5
Goldmember
Avatar
4,329 posts
Gallery: 34 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 303
Joined Apr 2005
Location: London, centre of the universe
     
May 22, 2014 15:09 |  #6

It's always been like this as far as I know.
I remember in the past my Canon S90 raw files would open up in the then current LR beta without any crop on it. When that version of LR became official and they had put full S90 compatibility in to it the crop areas we're then honoured and there was no going back.


Dave.
Gallery@http://www.flickr.com/​photos/davebass5/ (external link)
Canon R7 | Canon EOS-M50 | Canon 24-70 f/2.8L MKII | 70-300L | 135L f/2.0 | EF-S 10-18 | 40 f/2.8 STM | 35mm f/2 IS | Canon S110 | Fuji F31FD | Canon 580EXII, 270EXII | Yongnuo YN-622C Triggers.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
tonylong
...winded
Avatar
54,657 posts
Gallery: 60 photos
Likes: 571
Joined Sep 2007
Location: Vancouver, WA USA
     
May 22, 2014 15:23 |  #7

So, a question: Does this issue apply to Raw, or just to jpegs?

I don't know, I don't have one of the cameras, but I do have a problem with the idea of those settings being "burned in" to the Exif so that even with Raw, Lightroom can't just ignore them...it seems like it's not just a Lightroom issue but also a Canon issue...

At any rate, this to me would be a reason to not use such settings in the camera, 'cause especially if shooting jpegs you can't go back and "do it over"!


Tony
Two Canon cameras (5DC, 30D), three Canon lenses (24-105, 100-400, 100mm macro)
Tony Long Photos on PBase (external link)
Wildlife project pics here (external link), Biking Photog shoots here (external link), "Suburbia" project here (external link)! Mount St. Helens, Mount Hood pics here (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
dave_bass5
Goldmember
Avatar
4,329 posts
Gallery: 34 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 303
Joined Apr 2005
Location: London, centre of the universe
     
May 22, 2014 15:31 |  #8

I agree with the last statement.
If shooting raw it makes much more sense to just shoot at the full size and crop it to whatever you want afterwards.
I do feel that if you purposely select one of the other AR then that's what you would expect anyway.


Dave.
Gallery@http://www.flickr.com/​photos/davebass5/ (external link)
Canon R7 | Canon EOS-M50 | Canon 24-70 f/2.8L MKII | 70-300L | 135L f/2.0 | EF-S 10-18 | 40 f/2.8 STM | 35mm f/2 IS | Canon S110 | Fuji F31FD | Canon 580EXII, 270EXII | Yongnuo YN-622C Triggers.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
tzalman
Fatal attraction.
Avatar
13,497 posts
Likes: 213
Joined Apr 2005
Location: Gesher Haziv, Israel
     
May 22, 2014 15:47 |  #9

https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1377264
This is the thread to which Tony referred.


Elie / אלי

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
tonylong
...winded
Avatar
54,657 posts
Gallery: 60 photos
Likes: 571
Joined Sep 2007
Location: Vancouver, WA USA
     
May 22, 2014 16:33 |  #10

Ah, thanks, Elie, you nailed it! Both the question of whether it affects the Raw and then the tool to recover!!


Tony
Two Canon cameras (5DC, 30D), three Canon lenses (24-105, 100-400, 100mm macro)
Tony Long Photos on PBase (external link)
Wildlife project pics here (external link), Biking Photog shoots here (external link), "Suburbia" project here (external link)! Mount St. Helens, Mount Hood pics here (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
EOS_JD
Goldmember
2,925 posts
Likes: 2
Joined Dec 2005
Location: Lanarkshire, Scotland
     
May 23, 2014 18:59 |  #11

I found this problem too. Had to convert to DNG.


All My Gear
5D MkIII & 5D MKII + Grips | 24-70 f2.8L IS | 24-105 f4L IS | 70-200 f2.8L IS MkII | 50 f/1.4 | 85 f1.8 | 100 f2.8 | 1.4x MkII | Tamron 17-35 f2.8-4

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

2,449 views & 0 likes for this thread, 6 members have posted to it.
Q: Retrieving original 3:2 after shooting at other aspect ratio.
FORUMS Post Processing, Marketing & Presenting Photos RAW, Post Processing & Printing 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is Mihai Bucur
821 guests, 143 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.