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May 23, 2014 04:38 |  #1

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After looking at many photos on the net, the bug started to eat me from inside about those UWO lenses, those with f1.2 or even winder than that [f/1, f0.9?], so which lenses are you think you recommend to consider to use on any camera body if you have different brands?

I have Canon and Sony now as my digital 35mm, maybe sooner or later i may try Fuji as well, so this open doors for many lenses to think about, so let's say you have Canon/Nikon/Fuji/Sony/​Olympus cameras, then which lenses with f1.2 or wider aperture you will get or dream about?


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May 23, 2014 05:35 |  #2

you want some Xtrem lenses under f/1 ...
If you don't care about the focal length, lets go to the extreme :

Super Schmidt 510mm f/0.96

Leitz 180mm f/0.85

Karl Zeiss Planar 50mm f/0.7

And in Extreme of the Xtrem you have Schmidt Monobloc in diamond (so no air inside) f/0.02 , so 11 stops better than f/1. but this one is just about calculation and theories only, but the same principle was developed for a spectrograph ;)


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May 23, 2014 05:46 |  #3

WOW, thanks for your post, was waiting some answers.

Yes, i don't care about FL, anything can be used and sure will have use, but honestly speaking, most of my use with that lens with ultra wide open will be for street photography and indoor low light shots, and i think most of the time i go with wide to standard FLs, but no hard to go with telephoto as well.

Also i don't just want lenses that is wider than f1, i can be happy with f1.2 up to f1, i will consider all possibilities, also to my stupid mistake i forgot to mention about IQ or optical quality as well, it is pointless i get so UW open lens but not that much great overall IQ at the end.


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May 23, 2014 05:50 |  #4

F1.2 and faster lenses do not come cheap...at least for Canon lenses. Start thinking about $1000 and up...


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May 23, 2014 06:02 |  #5

The lens i gave you, are historical ;) ,

the first one was developed to observe Sputnik

the second one was made in 1944 to spy at night during WWII

The third one there is only 10 copies in the world (made in 1966), 3 was used by Stanley Kubrick for his movie "Barry Lyndon", and one by the crew of Apollo 8 end December 1968

More seriously you can find a Canon TV mount 50mm f/0.95 sometime on eBay


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May 23, 2014 06:13 |  #6

bratkinson wrote in post #16924154 (external link)
F1.2 and faster lenses do not come cheap...at least for Canon lenses. Start thinking about $1000 and up...

I know, but only if we talk about Canon/Nikon and maybe Zeiss ones, other brands you can find cheaper, also up to $1000 is not bad, i was hoping to prepare up to or maximum to $1500 for one lens, i will buy brand new only of Canon/Nikon/Zeiss ones if above $1500.

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The lens i gave you, are historical ;) ,

the first one was developed to observe Sputnik

the second one was made in 1944 to spy at night during WWII

The third one there is only 10 copies in the world (made in 1966), 3 was used by Stanley Kubrick for his movie "Barry Lyndon", and one by the crew of Apollo 8 end December 1968

More seriously you can find a Canon TV mount 50mm f/0.95 sometime on eBay

Yes, i checked out them on Google, and the names also sounds antique, so i thought they are old lenses.


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May 23, 2014 06:30 |  #7

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WOW, thanks for your post, was waiting some answers.

Yes, i don't care about FL, anything can be used and sure will have use, but honestly speaking, most of my use with that lens with ultra wide open will be for street photography and indoor low light shots, and i think most of the time i go with wide to standard FLs, but no hard to go with telephoto as well.

Also i don't just want lenses that is wider than f1, i can be happy with f1.2 up to f1, i will consider all possibilities, also to my stupid mistake i forgot to mention about IQ or optical quality as well, it is pointless i get so UW open lens but not that much great overall IQ at the end.

If you don't care about FL, then I am not sure you understand the principle. A 200 f/2 will give you far thinner depth of field (ie blurry foreground/background) than a 24/1.4 - unless you shoot the 24 from a foot from your subject.

If you just want the ability to creat a thin slice of focus with the rest blurry, you could look into tilt-shift lenses or even lensbabies for far less than the lenses with wider than f/1.2


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May 23, 2014 07:06 |  #8

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If you don't care about FL, then I am not sure you understand the principle. A 200 f/2 will give you far thinner depth of field (ie blurry foreground/background) than a 24/1.4 - unless you shoot the 24 from a foot from your subject.

If you just want the ability to creat a thin slice of focus with the rest blurry, you could look into tilt-shift lenses or even lensbabies for far less than the lenses with wider than f/1.2

I have a tilt shift lens and also a lensbaby, i also have 135 f2L, also 50 1.4, so i know those all can give that so thin or extreme bokeh, but it is just another thing, like to have something more than to use or need, so i wanted to have a lens that has f1.2 or wider, not necessary for very thin DoF, and i think sometimes if you have a lens with f1.2 it may be better at f1.4 than a lens of 1.4 at 1.4, not always using wide open give best quality, so if i have something like f1 or f1.2 lens then i can stop down to 1.4 and have better IQ, not necessary it is a fact always, but why not getting that lens, i like to try many options and i still don't have one lens with f1.2 or wider.


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May 23, 2014 07:21 as a reply to  @ Tareq's post |  #9

The 50L f/1.2 or 85L f/1.2 sound like the obvious choices to me.




  
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May 23, 2014 07:35 |  #10

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The 50L f/1.2 or 85L f/1.2 sound like the obvious choices to me.

They are, and i know about them, what else there? I want to use on my sony alpha, or maybe on Fuji one day when i get that, not only lenses for Canon, and maybe something cheaoer than 50/85 1.2 to go with, i saw Voigtlander Nokton 42.5mm f/0.95, $1000, not a bad price at all but is it a great lens compared to Canon 50/85 1.2? Also Fujinuon XT 56mm 1.2, well, i want to know all possible lenses there.


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May 23, 2014 08:16 |  #11

Canon 50mm f/0.95
Noctilux 50mm f/1.0


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May 23, 2014 08:38 |  #12

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Canon 50mm f/0.95
Noctilux 50mm f/1.0

I think i like the second one, i saw that name many many times more than the first one of Canon f/0.95

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May 23, 2014 09:57 |  #13

Leica Noctilux 50mm f/0.95 > http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …octilux_M_Asphe​rical.html (external link)
Voigtlander 50mm f/1.1 > http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …er_Nokton_50mm_​f_1_1.html (external link)


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May 23, 2014 10:05 |  #14

I've been really impressed with some of the images that I've seen from the Rokkor 58 f/1.2 - really nice rendering, similar to what you see from some Zeiss glass, to my eye - sharp and contrasty.


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May 23, 2014 10:15 |  #15

I see why that Noctilux is more popular, the price sure is very popular high, no thanks.

Well, suddenly that Voigtlander 50 became appealing now, who knows.


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