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May 23, 2014 10:02 |  #1

Greetings all,

I am wanting to use my 603 to trigger my two yn560iii off-camera and use my yn568ii on camera in ttl.

If I use something like this: http://www.amazon.com …XLJ&coliid=I385​NKBY060I9A (external link)

and this: http://www.amazon.com …XLJ&coliid=I36Y​LZO8EZCG24 (external link)

will that work? Just want to make sure I am wrapping my brain around this correctly.

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May 23, 2014 10:07 |  #2

I'm assuming there is a reason you dont want to use the optical slaves in the 560II's?




  
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May 23, 2014 10:35 |  #3

I'm planning on lighting a reception room that is the size of a basketball court. The 560iiis are to bring up the ambient and the 568ii will be for my subjects. I guess I thought I'd have better results using the rf rather than optical.


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May 23, 2014 10:46 |  #4

Thats a fair consideration. Just checking to make sure you werent going a long way for a short trip. It looks like the adapter you linked to will do the ETTL pass through. I dont know about the 603 transceivers, what cable they need but you are on the right track.




  
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May 23, 2014 10:53 |  #5

Great! Thank you, Gonzogolf.


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May 23, 2014 10:54 |  #6

I've tried this under numerous permutations (getting around the lack of PC output on the camera body - Grrr Canon!!!). That Pixel does not offer full proper pass through TTL data and raises the on camera flash such that more pressure is placed on the camera.

The best answer is to just purchase Yongnuo 622.

You might be able to get get away with one 622 and then place the 568II on top of it, running the 603s off the PC connection on the 622. Edit - don't know if the 603 takes an input through its pc socket, or if the 622 outputs a fire signal when on camera. Don't have a 603 to test....

better to buy two 622s - one on camera, one under an 568 attached to the camera with a bracket (I like Custom Bracket Mini-RC for this) and then place a 603 on top of the on camera 622 for the remote flashes.

Ang on, you have a 622 according to your kit list. Test it yourself...




  
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May 23, 2014 10:54 |  #7

The Pixel hotshoe adapter Nikon version did allow full pass through, but the Canon didn't even though it said it did. That was my testing..




  
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May 23, 2014 11:06 |  #8

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I've tried this under numerous permutations (getting around the lack of PC output on the camera body - Grrr Canon!!!). That Pixel does not offer full proper pass through TTL data and raises the on camera flash such that more pressure is placed on the camera.

The best answer is to just purchase Yongnuo 622.

You might be able to get get away with one 622 and then place the 568II on top of it, running the 603s off the PC connection on the 622. Edit - don't know if the 603 takes an input through its pc socket, or if the 622 outputs a fire signal when on camera. Don't have a 603 to test....

better to buy two 622s - one on camera, one under an 568 attached to the camera with a bracket (I like Custom Bracket Mini-RC for this) and then place a 603 on top of the on camera 622 for the remote flashes.


Ang on, you have a 622 according to your kit list. Test it yourself...

Thanks. That's a reasonable suggestion. I just have to pick up a male to male pc sync cord...I think. From this thread: https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1095640 It sounds like it should work how you suggested.

I appreciate you chiming in.

Edit: Oh wait a second...I think I was confused for a minute. I'll see what I can figure out. I may not need the cord like I thought.


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May 23, 2014 11:09 |  #9

If you need cords, www.flashzebra.com (external link) He has or can make anything you might ever need.




  
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May 23, 2014 11:14 |  #10

Be aware that any flash mounted on top of an on-camera 622 is not the same as a 'fully capable' flash and actually becomes a Group A flash being controlled by the 622. It's not like a full data 'Pass Through'.




  
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May 23, 2014 11:16 |  #11

Male to male PC sync cords are 2 a penny on Ebay, most superbly built. YN make them.

You need one if you ever wish to run a remote flash off a 622 when running in 'Hypersync' mode anyway, which only works through the 622s PC socket and not the hotshoe. Either that or a PC to 3.mm mini phone plug, depending on which socket your flash has.




  
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May 23, 2014 11:25 |  #12

gonzogolf wrote in post #16924771 (external link)
If you need cords, www.flashzebra.com (external link) He has or can make anything you might ever need.

Thanks. He seems to be a common recommendation. :)

Trailboy wrote in post #16924784 (external link)
Be aware that any flash mounted on top of an on-camera 622 is not the same as a 'fully capable' flash and actually becomes a Group A flash being controlled by the 622. It's not like a full data 'Pass Through'.

As in it's just firing the flash no ttl, correct? Just want to be sure I am understanding.

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Male to male PC sync cords are 2 a penny on Ebay, most superbly built. YN make them.

You need one if you ever wish to run a remote flash off a 622 when running in 'Hypersync' mode anyway, which only works through the 622s PC socket and not the hotshoe. Either that or a PC to 3.mm mini phone plug, depending on which socket your flash has.

So are you saying that I can't do hss with just the trigger and my 568ii? I found I can trigger the 560iii with a 603 mounted in my 622c in the hotshoe and trigger the 568ii with my second 622c but the flash changes to manual. Is that what you meant?

I thought I was figuring this out but am still a bit confused.


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May 23, 2014 11:27 |  #13

Argh...back to manual. lol


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May 23, 2014 11:33 |  #14

NewCreation wrote in post #16924811 (external link)
Thanks. He seems to be a common recommendation. :)

As in it's just firing the flash no ttl, correct? Just want to be sure I am understanding.

So are you saying that I can't do hss with just the trigger and my 568ii? I found I can trigger the 560iii with a 603 mounted in my 622c in the hotshoe and trigger the 568ii with my second 622c but the flash changes to manual. Is that what you meant?

I thought I was figuring this out but am still a bit confused.

Full TTL, just a group A flash. It will fire in standard TTL, but if you set the 622 to fire groups (ratio, manual, etc) it will be in group A.

Do not confuse HSS (strobing flashes repeatedly to cover the Chip) with Hypersync (long burn single flash that is long enough duration to become effectively a 'continuous light source'). Do a search on it, many have explained it better than I can.

The flash changes to manual? It shouldn't, it should remain in whatever mode the on-camera 622 is telling it to be in, as its being controlled by the on-camera 622. Try doing a full reset of the 622 and trying again.




  
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May 23, 2014 11:33 |  #15

No, the flash on top of the 622 on the camera is ETTL. Its a group A flash, just like any other group A flash.




  
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